[Foundation-l] Stalking Article

Huib Laurens sterkebak at gmail.com
Tue Jun 10 14:30:53 UTC 2008


i remember when i get the email's i did not sleep for day's. but the
local policy say's the person who edit or email's that thing's get a
block for one day.
i think that must global change.

2008/6/10, Dan Rosenthal <drosenthal op wikimedia.org>:
> On 6/10/08, Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb op yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen op gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen op gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking Article
>> > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <
>> foundation-l op lists.wikimedia.org>
>> > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 4:07 AM
>> > Ray,
>> > We are talking about people who on or off list threaten
>> > others to kill, maim
>> > and rape. We are talking about people associated with
>> > aggressive pov pushing
>> > and using any means whatsoever to establish their pov.
>> > There have been
>> > several examples given of this behaviour by credible
>> > people. Suggesting as
>> > you do that there is no idea that we are talking about it
>> > not where we are
>> > at.
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>> I am a bit lost as to what this whole thread is about. Many people seem to
>> be speaking with a great deal of allusion where I am not familar enough
>> with
>> the backgroun to dechiper it. So can someone clearly tell me if there are
>> any current admins or crats on any wiki that are known to have "on or off
>> list threaten others to kill, maim and rape"?
>>
>> Birgitte SB
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> I think you have it backwards. I think she meant that there are admins, and
> crats, who HAVE BEEN threatened (not doing the threatening) with murder,
> rape etc. I'm one such example, I've had a stalker through Wikipedia who has
> very graphically threatened to kill me, has sent mail to an old address of
> mine describing in detail how he intends to torture me while raping and
> killing my family. On the one hand, I'm not concerned about it personally --
> I feel safe, I am able to protect myself, and harassment is a known risk of
> making my identity public as I have chosen to do. On the other hand, I'm
> concerned for others who may find themselves in a similar situation, who did
> not choose to make their identities public but were instead outed
> by malicious people and websites,  who don't have that same level of
> protection, or perhaps are physically or emotionally frail and not in a
> position to be confident in their safety. That's a big concern, and I don't
> think it's something that can be ignored much long (nor should it),
> especially with as many longtime contributors that have been effected by it.
> We're getting to the point where if you are a contributor to the English
> Wikipedia (and in some cases other projects and languages), and you are a
> visible administrator or bureaucrat, and have been around for a decent
> amount of time, chances are high you will have been the subject of an
> attempted outing attempt or harassment.That's very very bad, and we need to
> start thinking of ways that we can mitigate that risk. It's certainly
> something that weighs heavily on my mind, and makes me wish that I was more
> intelligent that I could snap my fingers and have a solution ready.
>
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