[Foundation-l] Board response on Volunteer Council

[effe iets anders]

I said that the Board missed a major opportunity to catalyze this.
When the energy is favourable, the reaction can go, but it requires a
much higher activation energy without a catalyst. With the risk of the
product getting burned because of the high temperatures.

Lodewijk

2008/4/26 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen op gmail.com>:
> Hoi.
>  The way I read the announcement of the board and the commentary by Michael
>  Snow gives me a feeling of hope. It gives me hope because there is plenty
>  room for a self governing body that will be there for the projects. I argued
>  in the past to have a "Project Council" and the way I read this it is
>  exactly where the board gives us room to organise a functional council.
>
>  I agree with effeietsanders that there is a need to organise a council. I do
>  prefer a council that is particularly involved in addressing issues that are
>  the result of the over 700 projects we have. The influence a council will
>  have is something that will increasingly increase as it makes a difference
>  on the ground. So I appreciate effeietsanders's disappointment but I urge
>  him and the other members of the provisional council to work in the space
>  that is clearly available. It is not without precedent; Betawiki is another
>  self organised, self governing project that works for the benefit of us all.
>  In the end what makes a difference is that you make a difference.
>
>  In my opinion the glass is not half empty but half full... and filling :)
>  Thanks,
>         GerardM
>
>
>
>  On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Michael Snow <wikipedia op verizon.net> wrote:
>
>  > Michael Snow wrote:
>  > > At this stage, the board has decided not to take action on the proposal
>  > > to develop a Volunteer Council. We thank everyone who put the time and
>  > > effort into formulating and discussing this proposal. Although the board
>  > > did not find a clear fit for this proposal in the formal structure of
>  > > the Wikimedia Foundation, we didn't rule out the possibility that the
>  > > Wikimedia project communities might organize this or another type of
>  > > council for their own benefit.
>  > >
>  > Not speaking on behalf of the board generally, I'll share some of my
>  > personal opinion here. I can see some potential benefit to a volunteer
>  > council or similar body, but more clearly in a function of
>  > self-government for the community, where this may be lacking. That is to
>  > say, not so much to be involved in foundation-level operations, but to
>  > allow the foundation to avoid interfering where it is not wanted and
>  > does not want to be.
>  >
>  > For example, I don't think we as the board should really be approving
>  > stewards, or new arbitration committees on projects. Those are affairs
>  > for the community to handle on its own, other than that the foundation
>  > may want to have those people be personally identifiable. I could
>  > imagine that starting projects in new languages (as opposed to launching
>  > entirely new projects) might fit under this heading as well. So I
>  > encourage people to keep looking at the idea, and I would support
>  > developments that allow the community to govern itself instead of
>  > lapsing into anarchy.
>  >
>  > --Michael Snow
>  >
>  >
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