[Foundation-l] Ancient

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Mon Apr 14 09:53:10 UTC 2008


Hoi,
No, I think all our emails should not be public as a consequence.
Thanks,
    GerardM

On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:

> So somebody else has good reasons, and for that reason you do not
> think your e-mails should be public? I'm sorry, but I really don't
> follow. Perhaps there is a misunderstanding here?
>
> Mark
>
> On 14/04/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> >  There is another member has really important reasons why the e-mail
> needs to
> >  be private. A person that has an expertise that we really need. I am of
> the
> >  opinion that it is as a consequence not a good idea to make our mail
> public
> >  and this is reason enough for my mail not to be made public.
> >  Thanks,
> >     GerardM
> >
> >
> >  On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >  > One thing I appreciate about Jesse Martin's activities in the
> language
> >  > committee is that he aims for transparency. It seems every member of
> >  > the subcommittee - besides Gerard M. -  has agreed to the public
> >  > archival of their messages.
> >  >
> >  > However, I am certainly curious, Jesse has characterized working for
> >  > the LC as fraught with lengthy discussions... where?
> >  >
> >  > I can see that Jesse has done a lot of work, but looking here:
> >  >
> >  > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_subcommittee/Archives/2008-02
> >  >
> >  > It appears that the vast majority of the posts come from Jesse or
> >  > Gerard, with some additional opinions from Sabine and Berto, but most
> >  > members seem to just chime in to concur with proposals or object.
> >  >
> >  > I'm not trying to say that members should not be weighing in more
> with
> >  > their own opinions, but rather that if you consider the average
> >  > contribution to discussions of anybody besides Jesse and Gerard, it
> >  > seems rather easy a job.
> >  >
> >  > Perhaps Jesse is detailing his own experience.
> >  >
> >  > Mark
> >  >
> >  > On 14/04/2008, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> >  > > This perhaps might be better stated as Dovi wishing to see more
> LangCom
> >  > >  people active here, although from Jesse's comments that might make
> the
> >  > >  entire process too onerous for committee members.
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >  Brian
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >  -----Original Message-----
> >  > >  From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> >  > >
> >  > > [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> >  > >  Williamson
> >  > >  Sent: 14 April 2008 05:02
> >  > >  To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> >  > >  Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Ancient
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > > >  anyone other than yourself has a valid argument. You assert that
> the
> >  > >  basis
> >  > >  >  for your position is the unstated guidelines to which the
> language
> >  > >  committee
> >  > >  >  allegedly works.
> >  > >
> >  > >  It is worth noting that in Gerard M's (he got angry last time I
> used
> >  > >  his surname, even though it is used in some ML messages) many
> months
> >  > >  of doing this in many messages, Jesse Martin, another member of
> the
> >  > >  committee, has often challenged his interpretation of the
> guidelines,
> >  > >  or suggested that he was expressing his own opinion as if it were
> a
> >  > >  guideline.
> >  > >
> >  > >  Gerard, Dovi asked you how membership is decided. Dovi said, and I
> >  > >  quote: "I would like to see more voices and greater diversity of
> >  > >  opinion on it", which to me implies Dovi would like to see more
> >  > >  members, though not necessarily him/herself.
> >  > >
> >  > >  Mark
> >  > >
> >  > >
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