[Foundation-l] Ancient
Mark Williamson
node.ue at gmail.com
Mon Apr 14 09:50:13 UTC 2008
So somebody else has good reasons, and for that reason you do not
think your e-mails should be public? I'm sorry, but I really don't
follow. Perhaps there is a misunderstanding here?
Mark
On 14/04/2008, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> There is another member has really important reasons why the e-mail needs to
> be private. A person that has an expertise that we really need. I am of the
> opinion that it is as a consequence not a good idea to make our mail public
> and this is reason enough for my mail not to be made public.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > One thing I appreciate about Jesse Martin's activities in the language
> > committee is that he aims for transparency. It seems every member of
> > the subcommittee - besides Gerard M. - has agreed to the public
> > archival of their messages.
> >
> > However, I am certainly curious, Jesse has characterized working for
> > the LC as fraught with lengthy discussions... where?
> >
> > I can see that Jesse has done a lot of work, but looking here:
> >
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_subcommittee/Archives/2008-02
> >
> > It appears that the vast majority of the posts come from Jesse or
> > Gerard, with some additional opinions from Sabine and Berto, but most
> > members seem to just chime in to concur with proposals or object.
> >
> > I'm not trying to say that members should not be weighing in more with
> > their own opinions, but rather that if you consider the average
> > contribution to discussions of anybody besides Jesse and Gerard, it
> > seems rather easy a job.
> >
> > Perhaps Jesse is detailing his own experience.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On 14/04/2008, Brian McNeil <brian.mcneil at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
> > > This perhaps might be better stated as Dovi wishing to see more LangCom
> > > people active here, although from Jesse's comments that might make the
> > > entire process too onerous for committee members.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> > >
> > > [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mark
> > > Williamson
> > > Sent: 14 April 2008 05:02
> > > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Ancient
> > >
> > >
> > > > anyone other than yourself has a valid argument. You assert that the
> > > basis
> > > > for your position is the unstated guidelines to which the language
> > > committee
> > > > allegedly works.
> > >
> > > It is worth noting that in Gerard M's (he got angry last time I used
> > > his surname, even though it is used in some ML messages) many months
> > > of doing this in many messages, Jesse Martin, another member of the
> > > committee, has often challenged his interpretation of the guidelines,
> > > or suggested that he was expressing his own opinion as if it were a
> > > guideline.
> > >
> > > Gerard, Dovi asked you how membership is decided. Dovi said, and I
> > > quote: "I would like to see more voices and greater diversity of
> > > opinion on it", which to me implies Dovi would like to see more
> > > members, though not necessarily him/herself.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
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