[Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council: May we start?

[effe iets anders]

Let's just wait a few days for the outcome of the Board Meeting (or
did I miss some announcement?)

-- Lodewijk

2008/4/8, Milos Rancic <millosh op gmail.com>:
> I was thinking about having two lists: one read-only and one private.
>  Read-only should be used for the most of discussions, while private
>  should be used if someone asks for that (which should be notified
>  somehow at the read-only list; maybe like "a contributor asked for
>  private conversation" or "a council member asked for that" -- without
>  mentioning names, of course). The problem with that concept is that
>  PVC should have a time-limited mandate and that I am sure that two
>  lists may mean significantly less efficiency.
>
>  But, if we introduce a wiki, then we may solve it in the sense that a
>  wiki would be read-only medium, while a list would be a private one.
>
>  I think that both resources should be left to be used by VC.
>
>
>  On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:27 PM, FloNight <sydney.poore op gmail.com> wrote:
>  > I've read the post in the threads on the (P)VC  but have not commented
>  >  further since I'm undecided about the next steps until I hear more
>  >  from the board and the staff.
>  >
>  >  From my experience on ArbCom, a wiki is a much better place to keep a
>  >  record of the discussions by topic. They also can be watchlisted so
>  >  updates to threads of discussion are more obvious and topics under
>  >  discussions can be completed sooner.
>  >
>  >  I agree that transparency is important for most of the work, but not all.
>  >
>  >  Some people are timid about making comments in public forums. If users
>  >  want to contact the group privately with idea or concerns, I would
>  >  like for them to be heard.
>  >
>  >  Sydney
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Whitworth <wknight8111 op gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  > I'm neither interested in a private wiki nor a private mailing list
>  >  >  for this. I would be fine with a communications medium that was
>  >  >  read-only for non-members. We do want the community to know what we
>  >  >  are discussing, even if we take some measures to keep the noise level
>  >  >  down while we are discussing it.
>  >  >
>  >  >  Also, I agree with Chad that no wiki/list/whatever be set up until we
>  >  >  have board approval on a resolution to create a PVC in the first
>  >  >  place. Jumping the gun here is really not a good idea.
>  >  >
>  >  >  --Andrew Whitworth
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Chad <innocentkiller op gmail.com> wrote:
>  >  >  > Until the Board decides either way on the (P)VC, there
>  >  >  >  should be no private wikis or mailing lists. If those of
>  >  >  >  you on Effe's shortlist want to congregate somewhere
>  >  >  >  off WMF-endorsed lists and wikis privately, that's your
>  >  >  >  own agenda, but to make a private list or wiki when
>  >  >  >  there's no official endorsement from the Foundation
>  >  >  >  is unacceptable. We already have a community paranoid
>  >  >  >  of "cabals" and "secret lists" as it is, and making one
>  >  >  >  on the official mailing lists without and Board approval
>  >  >  >  wouldn't help that paranoia in the least.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  -Chad
>  >  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
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