[Foundation-l] Provisional Volunteer Council: May we start?

Chad innocentkiller at gmail.com
Tue Apr 8 13:43:16 UTC 2008

Until the Board decides either way on the (P)VC, there
should be no private wikis or mailing lists. If those of
you on Effe's shortlist want to congregate somewhere
off WMF-endorsed lists and wikis privately, that's your
own agenda, but to make a private list or wiki when
there's no official endorsement from the Foundation
is unacceptable. We already have a community paranoid
of "cabals" and "secret lists" as it is, and making one
on the official mailing lists without and Board approval
wouldn't help that paranoia in the least.


On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com> wrote:
> After a long discussion at foundation-l, I may conclude that:
>  - Provisional Volunteer Council will or won't not be a WMF body.
>  - Volunteer Council will or won't deal with WMF bylaws.
>  - It will deal with projects, for sure.
>  According to that, my proposal is:
>  - To start to work as a Wikimedian group (to make a private mailing
>  list, maybe a wiki, too) and to wait what would be the Board's
>  decision.
>  - To delay (until Board's decision) work on implementation of "the
>  complement to the Board, Advisory board, Office etc.".
>  Until Board's decision we are able:
>  - To work on constituting a community's body which would deal with projects.
>  - To work on representation and other issues not strictly related to
>  the formal relation between the Board and the community.
>  - Not to work out the scope of the Lodewijk's proposal because of the
>  possibility to become a body which creates a legal body.
>  - To inform the community once per month about our work (let's say
>  that May 15th should be the time for the first report).
>  If the Board didn't make a decision at this meeting, it should
>  consider our work retroactively. The Board may change the names of the
>  councils if it is willing to do so.
>  Nine of us at the list + Lodewijk may start with work immediately.
>  Because of formal reasons, our first decision may be adopting Lodewijk
>  as a member.
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