[Foundation-l] Creative Commons CC-BY-SA Draft Statement of Intent

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
So everyone but a lawyer specialised in copyright law is an amateur? I
always learned that the opposite of an amateur is a professional. Certainly
Erik is one at that.
Thanks,
       GerardM

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com> wrote:

> He is not a lawyer. Being deeply involved and understanding social
> processes don't qualify one person to be a lawyer who is able to
> analyze possible judicial consequences of one legal act, like license
> is.
>
> On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> >  Why do you think particularly Erik is an amateur at this? I would say
> that
> >  one of the reasons why he was offered the job of deputy director of the
> WMF
> >  is because of his efforts in this field. Given that Jimmy is a board
> member
> >  of the CC and a board member of the WMF, I would not qualify him as
> just an
> >  amateur either.
> >  Thanks,
> >      GerardM
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >  > The whole process was far from transparent and you are continuing
> with
> >  > writing rationalizations for keeping the process nontransparent.
> >  > Changing the license is not only a matter of the Board, but it is a
> >  > matter of all contributors.
> >  >
> >  > I don't remember that I've seen any professional analysis of what we
> >  > are getting and what we are losing by switching from one to another
> >  > license. There were only amateur arguing (including your, Erik's,
> >  > mine, Gregory's, Gerard's...) pro and contra one or another license.
> >  > (If there was such analysis, please, give me a link.)
> >  >
> >  > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com>
> wrote:
> >  > > Milos Rancic wrote:
> >  > >  > May you inform us about at least some of your conclusions (I am
> >  > >  > particularly interested in Mike's conclusions, of course)? Also,
> >  > while
> >  > >  > I am not perfectly informed about this, I really wouldn't miss
> the
> >  > >  > information which you said now. So, please, may this process be
> a
> >  > >  > little bit more transparent?
> >  > >
> >  > >  I am not sure what I can tell you.  What do you want to know?
> >  > >
> >  > >  It is not possible to tell you blow by blow the state of complex
> >  > >  discussions.  It's the hands of lawyers who are working very
> >  > >  thoughtfully about how to deal with complex issues.  Discussions
> have
> >  > >  been going on for years, and things are very close to resolution.
> >  > >
> >  > >  There was a public comment process, did you take part in it?
> >  > >
> >  > >  --Jimbo
> >  > >
> >  > >
> >  > >
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