[Foundation-l] [FR 07] Fundraiser 2007 -ResponsivenessofCommunity

[Florence Devouard]

Nod. It seems an evidence to me :-)
Titoxd, thank you for the banner.
Looking at it, an issue came to my mind. If we put such a banner, for 
example on blogs, how many people will realise that this is about 
Wikipedia ? I know it is probably not politically correct to say that 
(grin), but would it not be more efficient to do such banner with a 
wikipedia logo ? (or to somehow use the logo somewhere or the name ?)

ant

Titoxd at Wikimedia wrote:
> Didn't this thread start with a representative of the Foundation asking for
> responses from the community? So, how can you say that I have to ask for the
> permission of the Foundation to generate fundraising materials, when the
> Foundation itself requested those ideas? I don't see what the "free
> derivatives" point has to do with anything, as the image I created is not
> released under a free license, and it has its copyright transferred to
> Wikimedia, so the Foundation is free to delete it if it deems necessary.
> 
> In any case, if one has to jump through a thousand hoops to volunteer
> something for the Foundation, don't be surprised when no one volunteers
> anything.
> 
> Titoxd.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael
> Bimmler
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:43 AM
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [FR 07] Fundraiser 2007
> -ResponsivenessofCommunity
> 
> On 9/19/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hoi,
>> Do you really think that this will be a problem ? Somehow I doubt it.
> First
>> and foremost we need to be engaged. I think that is more relevant then
>> expecting the Foundation to say no before it has been even asked !!
> 
> I didn't say the foundation would say no, I just said that actually
> the aim of the Community Logo was (as far as I remember) to provide a
> logo which can be quickly and without legal restrictions be used by
> anyone and from which free derivatives can be created.
> 
> Michael
> 
>> Thanks,
>>     GerardM
>>
>> On 9/19/07, Michael Bimmler <mbimmler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/19/07, Tim 'avatar' Bartel <wikipedia at computerkultur.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Titoxd at Wikimedia schrieb, am 19.09.2007 09:58:
>>>>> I'm pretty sure that they'll make something more subtle if
>>> requested...
>>>>> By the way, I've thrown my hat into the mix and made an image for
> the
>>>>> fundraiser. I've uploaded it to Commons:
>>>>>
>>>>>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikimedia_Fundraiser_2007.png
>>>>> (I'm using this email to release any copyright I may have and
> granting
>>> it to
>>>>> the Foundation as well.) Hopefully you guys will like it. :)
>>>> I don't want to be the bad guy but this logo does not match our visual
>>>> identity guidelines [1] and so it shouldn't be used at all.
>>>>
>>> As a clarification: It specifiically violates the sentence "Note that
>>> no derivative of the Wikimedia logo can be published without prior
>>> approval from the Foundation." Anyway, isn't this why we have a
>>> Community logo (
>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg)
>>> which can be used without approval and without following the
>>> Foundation Logo guidelines?
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>> Bye, Tim.
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_visual_identity_guidelines
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