[Foundation-l] [FR 07] Fundraiser 2007 -ResponsivenessofCommunity

[Titoxd@Wikimedia]

Didn't this thread start with a representative of the Foundation asking for
responses from the community? So, how can you say that I have to ask for the
permission of the Foundation to generate fundraising materials, when the
Foundation itself requested those ideas? I don't see what the "free
derivatives" point has to do with anything, as the image I created is not
released under a free license, and it has its copyright transferred to
Wikimedia, so the Foundation is free to delete it if it deems necessary.

In any case, if one has to jump through a thousand hoops to volunteer
something for the Foundation, don't be surprised when no one volunteers
anything.

Titoxd.

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[mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Bimmler
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [FR 07] Fundraiser 2007
-ResponsivenessofCommunity

On 9/19/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> Do you really think that this will be a problem ? Somehow I doubt it.
First
> and foremost we need to be engaged. I think that is more relevant then
> expecting the Foundation to say no before it has been even asked !!

I didn't say the foundation would say no, I just said that actually
the aim of the Community Logo was (as far as I remember) to provide a
logo which can be quickly and without legal restrictions be used by
anyone and from which free derivatives can be created.

Michael

> Thanks,
>     GerardM
>
> On 9/19/07, Michael Bimmler <mbimmler at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 9/19/07, Tim 'avatar' Bartel <wikipedia at computerkultur.org> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Titoxd at Wikimedia schrieb, am 19.09.2007 09:58:
> > > > I'm pretty sure that they'll make something more subtle if
> > requested...
> > > >
> > > > By the way, I've thrown my hat into the mix and made an image for
the
> > > > fundraiser. I've uploaded it to Commons:
> > > >
> > > >
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikimedia_Fundraiser_2007.png
> > > >
> > > > (I'm using this email to release any copyright I may have and
granting
> > it to
> > > > the Foundation as well.) Hopefully you guys will like it. :)
> > >
> > > I don't want to be the bad guy but this logo does not match our visual
> > > identity guidelines [1] and so it shouldn't be used at all.
> > >
> >
> > As a clarification: It specifiically violates the sentence "Note that
> > no derivative of the Wikimedia logo can be published without prior
> > approval from the Foundation." Anyway, isn't this why we have a
> > Community logo (
> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg)
> > which can be used without approval and without following the
> > Foundation Logo guidelines?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > > Bye, Tim.
> > >
> > > [1]
> > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_visual_identity_guidelines
> > >
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