[Foundation-l] [foundation-l] Open proxies an interwiki matter

[White Cat]

Effeietsanders what about the local communities? If a local community
disagrees with a global ban how will we handle it?

On 9/9/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yup, that's what I was referring to. ;-)
>
> On 9/9/07, effe iets anders <effeietsanders at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I can imagine some better defenses against spambots, such as
> > crosswiki-nuke
> > and crosswiki-blocks :) (i.e. a steward could block for *all* wikimedia
> > wiki's at the same time an IP) Requests have been made already, so if
> > someone with coding abilities could take a look at it, please :) See
> > http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11069 and
> > http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707 .
> >
> > Eia
> >
> > 2007/9/9, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > Ah, I see what you mean now. :-)
> > >
> > > On 9/8/07, White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I know. Thats the current process. I commented on it before
> > anyone
> > > > brought it up. :)
> > > >
> > > >    - White Cat
> > > >
> > > > On 9/9/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I said nothing in my post about developers doing the blocking
> > > > > themselves...
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/8/07, White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Indeed. We are defenseless right now and I dislike it. Dev
> blocks
> > > are
> > > > > not
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > solution, devs have far more important things to do and blocking
> > > open
> > > > > > proxies would come after "watching empty walls aimlessly" on my
> to
> > > do
> > > > > list
> > > > > > if I were a dev.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   - White Cat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/8/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 9/8/07, White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I think we really need to have some automation in dealing
> with
> > > > > these.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Granted there are notable exceptions on some wikis such as
> the
> > > > > Chinese
> > > > > > > > wikis, but for every other wiki there needs to be a more
> > > > centralized
> > > > > > > block
> > > > > > > > on open proxies.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How likely is an average person to edit a wiki from an open
> > > proxy?
> > > > > How
> > > > > > > > likely is a spam bot or some destructive vandal script to
> > > preform
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > task.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think a solution could be like the spam list - a
> centralized
> > > > meta
> > > > > > page
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > open proxy blocks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >    - White Cat
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> > > > > > > This discussion is completely premature.  Last I checked, the
> > > 'Open
> > > > > > > proxies' page on meta was removed from its state of
> > > > ''policy''.  What
> > > > > > > you are talking about is surely doable, but we do not have a
> > > > consensus
> > > > > > > on if to block OPs, let alone which types of proxies or what
> > type
> > > of
> > > > > > > block.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Another solution to the problem you bring up would be
> cross-wiki
> > > > > > > blocking by a certain user group like stewards.  It would stop
> > any
> > > > > > > vandal-script globally for a short amount of time. (vandals
> > rarely
> > > > use
> > > > > > > the same proxy twice).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
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