[Foundation-l] [foundation-l] Open proxies an interwiki matter

[Casey Brown]

Yup, that's what I was referring to. ;-)

On 9/9/07, effe iets anders <effeietsanders at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I can imagine some better defenses against spambots, such as
> crosswiki-nuke
> and crosswiki-blocks :) (i.e. a steward could block for *all* wikimedia
> wiki's at the same time an IP) Requests have been made already, so if
> someone with coding abilities could take a look at it, please :) See
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11069 and
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8707 .
>
> Eia
>
> 2007/9/9, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml at gmail.com>:
> >
> > Ah, I see what you mean now. :-)
> >
> > On 9/8/07, White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, I know. Thats the current process. I commented on it before
> anyone
> > > brought it up. :)
> > >
> > >    - White Cat
> > >
> > > On 9/9/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I said nothing in my post about developers doing the blocking
> > > > themselves...
> > > >
> > > > On 9/8/07, White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed. We are defenseless right now and I dislike it. Dev blocks
> > are
> > > > not
> > > > > a
> > > > > solution, devs have far more important things to do and blocking
> > open
> > > > > proxies would come after "watching empty walls aimlessly" on my to
> > do
> > > > list
> > > > > if I were a dev.
> > > > >
> > > > >   - White Cat
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/8/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 9/8/07, White Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I think we really need to have some automation in dealing with
> > > > these.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Granted there are notable exceptions on some wikis such as the
> > > > Chinese
> > > > > > > wikis, but for every other wiki there needs to be a more
> > > centralized
> > > > > > block
> > > > > > > on open proxies.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How likely is an average person to edit a wiki from an open
> > proxy?
> > > > How
> > > > > > > likely is a spam bot or some destructive vandal script to
> > preform
> > > > the
> > > > > > task.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think a solution could be like the spam list - a centralized
> > > meta
> > > > > page
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > open proxy blocks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >    - White Cat
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > This discussion is completely premature.  Last I checked, the
> > 'Open
> > > > > > proxies' page on meta was removed from its state of
> > > ''policy''.  What
> > > > > > you are talking about is surely doable, but we do not have a
> > > consensus
> > > > > > on if to block OPs, let alone which types of proxies or what
> type
> > of
> > > > > > block.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another solution to the problem you bring up would be cross-wiki
> > > > > > blocking by a certain user group like stewards.  It would stop
> any
> > > > > > vandal-script globally for a short amount of time. (vandals
> rarely
> > > use
> > > > > > the same proxy twice).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Casey Brown
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> > > > > >
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