[Foundation-l] [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2008 will happen in Alexandria, Egypt

Ray Saintonge saintonge at telus.net
Thu Oct 11 08:19:30 UTC 2007


David Strauss wrote:
> George Herbert wrote:
>   
>> If you believe Egypt truly is significantly bad for visiting LGBT
>> tourists, there should be ample evidence thereof available.  In spite
>> of my friends' and aquaintences personal ancedotal safe trips, I went
>> looking for some evidence of risk when this thread started.  I have
>> not found anything of the sort.  There's more documented foreign
>> tourist gay bashing in San Francisco (fairly low actual rate, and
>> abhored by the local population as a whole, but there's a persistent
>> low-rate problem from homophobic fringeists) than I can find for
>> Egypt.
>>     
> If you use official records, there's zero gay bashing in Iran. I
> wouldn't consider Egypt's records on GLBT issues accurate, either.
>   
Can I read that as a vote for moving Wikimania 2008 to Iran?
> That's the quandary with record-keeping. The places with the most
> problems often have the worst records. Never mistake bad record keeping
> with the absence of a problem.
Not always; those Germans were meticulous record keepers.

While I can agree that there can be a strong correlation between poor 
human rights and poor record keeping, it is inappropriate to impute a 
causal relationsip between the two.

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