[Foundation-l] Language Prevention Committee created

[Mark Williamson]

Well, yes, but the policy is written partly by you.

You speak about the policy as if it's written in stone and as if
criticism of it is illogical because it cannot or will not ever be
changed.

Please read the last 10 messages on this thread. The consensus so far
_in this thread_ seems to be that it is illogical to require full
translation of MediaWiki messages before allowing a new Wikipedia to
be created.

Then please read the title of this thread, and note that it was posted
by Arbeo, who is a very respectable person.

Mark

On 27/03/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> The new policy does not deal with the mess that exists as a consequence of
> not having this policy in the past. Mark's argument is based on things that
> happened before the policy came into effect.
>
> Solving the mess is what we do want to address .. so far there have been two
> languages provided with their initial messages in MediaWiki... We are
> working on a solution for all issues but it does take a lot of work. For one
> of the pieces of the puzzle we have been told to wait until Brion has rolled
> out single login. We have explicitly asked for some priority because this is
> an important issue to us. I have had information from Brion and from within
> the board of trustees that our issues do not have priority.
>
> As it does not have priority for the WMF, we are in a state of limbo with
> many of these issues. New languages do not have any priority. I would like
> to see that the support of languages in MediaWiki does have priority.
> Thanks,
>      GerardM
>
> On 3/27/07, Andre Engels <andreengels at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > 2007/3/27, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > Hoi,
> > > The reason why they did not have translated interfaces is because nobody
> > > bothered to set up the message files. The accepted policy of the
> > language
> > > committee requires them.
> >
> >
> > What is being questioned here is the validity of this policy. Erik stated
> > that if you cannot get someone to be bothered to set up the message files,
> > it is reasonable to expect you cannot setup an encyclopedia either. Mark
> > now
> > answers that it has been done a few times. So that removes one argument.
> > Apparently, now the reason that it is policy is that the committee has
> > decided it is. Which is a rather lame reason in an open organization as
> > the
> > Wikimedia foundation is (I think) hoping to be.
> >
> > --
> > Andre Engels, andreengels at gmail.com
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