[Foundation-l] Sigh, problems with non-Latin usernames again

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Tue Jan 30 07:14:56 UTC 2007

When people are told to transliterate their name, they will do just that 
and that way you cannot require them to be uniquely known. Your 
suggestion is not even feasible. I repeat this proposed practice is 
highly discriminatory, it does not fit in with the Single User Login 
that is to be implemented.

Your basic assumption, that it is up to the English language Wikipedia 
to be discriminatory may be something that can pulled off. It will be a 
disgrace for the project when it is reinstated, it is already a disgrace 
for the people who propose it.


Matt R schreef:
> --- Anders Wegge Jakobsen <wegge at wegge.dk> wrote:
>>  Learn to discern between squiggles then. If you claim that the
>> average editor is able to remeber User:JoeBloggs from way back, then
>> any claim of not beeing able to discern between squiggles revolve
>> around being unable (or unwilling) to install the proper font needed
>> to make sense out of User:Æøå. 
> Non-Latin usernames make distinguishing and recognising users *much* harder.
> How many different fonts do I have to install to cover all possible squiggles?
> On all OSes on all my computers? Can I install these fonts on my old Unix
> terminal? (Yes, I do use it for Wikipedia...) Can I install fonts on the
> computers at my local library and Internet cafe? (Answer: No.) Do you expect
> people less familiar with technology to know how to do this, or even that there
> exists some way to resolve those question marks? Which will someone remember
> longer: "User:JoeBloggs" or "User:some_weird_glyph"?
> The inconvenience to en: Wikipedians is quite out of proportion to the
> convenience of not having to spend the thirty seconds creating a Latin-1
> username. 
> I'm not going to spend any more of my dwindling Wikipedia time on this, fun as
> it is being put in the same moral category as racists and misogynists and
> sneered at for lacking a universal knowledge of the world's writing systems.
>>>>  Will the next demand be that interwiki targets must only be named
>>>> with latin-1 characters?
>>> Come on, that's a one of them strawman thingybobs: nobody's
>>> demanding this, and there's no reason to thing anyone would. There
>>> are few Wikipedia interactions that are affected by the ability to
>>> read non-Latin-1 interwiki targets.
>>  You are free to call that argument a strawman, as long as you accept
>> that your basic premise (that latin-1 is the bee's knees) are a
>> strawman as well.
> Actually, I'm just free to call a strawman a strawman. Watch carefully and I'll
> do it again!
> How to win an argument:
> 1. Make an obvious strawman argument.
> 2. Wait for someone to call you on it.
> 3. Agree to concede that it's a strawman only if the person you're arguing with
> concedes your main point.
> 4. ????
> 5. Profit!
> -- Matt
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