[Foundation-l] [Announcement] Welcome to the advisory group

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Mon Jan 29 12:28:34 UTC 2007

One reason to have an advisory board is to bring outsiders into an 
organisation that have a distinctly /other /approach. Angela will be 
very much a linking pin with our organisation; she is deeply connected 
to the Wikimedia Foundation and has through her activities at Wikia a 
deep understanding in how to build communities as well as an 
understanding in using MediaWiki in a commercial environment. Because of 
her new relative distance to the WMF I am convinced that we are lucky 
that she has accepted this post.

Another reason why you would want people in an advisory board is because 
of the network that they bring with them. Kofi Anan, would be one person 
that would be really important if he would consider us. I do not know if 
we are audacious enough to ask him :)

I disagree strongly that we should populate an advisory board with 
people that are already in our community. It would create an other layer 
of bureaucracy and I am not convinced that we need our own demi-gods. 
People that ARE within have the option to make themselves useful in many 
ways. There are plenty of things that do not get done. We talk enough as 
it is and imho we do not need another talking shop.

effe iets anders schreef:
> maybe it would be more constructive if we wouldnt stuck to this very person,
> and the discussion whether he is notable or not have private? Then we could
> maybe focus more on the issue that is imho more important, the *type* of
> person that is missing. So not really names, but more the qualities that
> lack this advisory group. Actually I am somehow missing a bit more input
> from the communities. Most of the users seem to me (except angela) relative
> outsiders, please correct me if i'm wrong. Might it be worth evaluating the
> idea that in some way we should have a user of several parts of the
> wikimedia communities? And then especially users who are more then just
> users. So they should be active users, but also bring "a little extra", for
> example, they combine that with skills on social, legal, economical or
> ideological area.
> Lodewijk
> 2007/1/29, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>:
>> Cormac Lawler schreef:
>>> On 1/29/07, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Ray Saintonge schreef:
>>>>> Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>>>> There are many people who could make a valuable contribution to this
>>>>>> advisory board. You apparently have yours and I do not even know
>> Sunir
>>>>>> Shah.
>>>>> He was at Wikimania in Frankfort.
>>>>> Ec
>>>> Hoi,
>>>> So were you and I, so was Richard Stallman if that is what makes you
>>>> notable ...
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>     GerardM
>>> Sunir Shah is the (co)founder of Meatball Wiki:
>>> <http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki> ;
>>> <http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SunirShah>. You can find his
>>> Wikimania 2005 presentation details at:
>>> <
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2005_Presentations#Other_Talks
>>> .
>>> I agree with Jussi-Ville that he could be of great service to the
>>> advisory group.
>>> Cormac
>> Hoi,
>> I have again looked at the website, it gives me a chaotic impression. I
>> have looked at the presentation it is OK, however I am sure that we have
>> people of an equal calibre in our own ranks. My idea of an advisory
>> board is that they have to bring something extra, something fresh. I
>> fail to see what the extra is. To be blunt, to me is seems like a "blast
>> from the past" while we need to see into a future and reach out.
>> Thanks,
>>     GerardM

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