[Foundation-l] Racism in Commons

[Yoni Weiden]

I am happy to see that the images were removed from Ariel Sharon's page.
Thats one setp. However, I still have a problem with categories like
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Caricatures_of_Ariel_Sharon
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Politics_of_the_Palestinian_territories
and such. There images should be hosted by Wikimedia, except for one or two
images - for educational reasons (like I said - the Hebrew Wikipedia has one
cartoon example on the artist's page).

Regarding double standard - I have no idea whats going on in other pages. I
can imagine that this artist and others have infected other pages too, incl.
Bush's page, and even Hitler's page. These pages should be *clean* from
racist images that promote nothing Wikimedia stands for.

I would like Wikimedia board members to set a resolution to force Commons to
create some sort of NPOV policy and to force them to clean their site -
Ariel Sharon's page, Bush's page and even Hitler's page. Futhermore, I think
the foundation should publish a basic NPOV policy that will bind all
projects.

Hosting such pictures in the name of education is taking the word to a new
and unwanted level.

Thanks,
Yoni

2007/12/5, Nathan Awrich <nawrich at gmail.com>:

> I'm not a Commons member, but am an en:wiki member of the Israel and
> Judaism projects (to illustrate where I'm coming from on this issue).
> I think that NPOV should be not be applied to Commons. A media storage
> space (even one with verification and other processes) shouldn't have
> a neutral or any other point of view. Its simply storage. If the
> cartoons are actually used anywhere, then they should adhere to the
> POV-related and other policies applicable to where they are used.
>
> An issue unrelated to racism, NPOV, etc. is proper categorisation.
> That is the purview of Commons, and the images probably belong in some
> more specific category than images of Ariel Sharon.
>
> ~Nate
>
> On Dec 5, 2007 11:06 AM, Riana <wiki.riana at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 06/12/2007, Christiano Moreschi <moreschiwikiman at hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > > There's a word for that we use at enwiki: POV-pushing.
> >
> >
> > I wish every discussion along these lines didn't turn into a enWP v/s
> > <insert smaller project here> pissing contest, but meh. Had a brief look
> and
> > [[commons:George W. Bush#Cartoons and Caricatures]] turned up. So which
> > accusation do we prefer, Commons folks - non-NPOV, or double standards?
> :)
> >
> > --
> > Riana
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Riana
> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Riana
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