[Foundation-l] What's wrong with CC-BY-SA?

Florence Devouard Anthere9 at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 2 16:14:56 UTC 2007

Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> On 12/2/07, Erik Moeller <erik at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> I think you're misinterpreting a bunch of social interactions that may
>> have happened. The world isn't divided into the enemies and supporters
>> of the Truly Good Free Culture Movement. CC's proponents aren't
>> faceless bureaucrats. Larry Lessig, Joi Ito, Jimmy Wales (who is on
>> the CC Board) and others all have their own unique and internally
>> consistent views of how to change the world for the better.
>> That doesn't mean these are your views, or mine. But recognizing them
>> as valid interpretations of reality is the first step to extending the
>> hand of friendship and working with others. I do believe that, in the
>> vision of the people who run CC, responding to the people who are
>> changing and challenging existing models of cultural production is key
>> to doing their job well. That doesn't mean that they do not understand
>> the reasoning of different communities, or the consequences of
>> particular decisions.
>> To work with CC means to engage them in a productive dialogue about
>> the future of culture, not to shun them as untrustworthy or
>> unprincipled. Unfortunately, in conflicts like this one, people like
>> yourself often respond by taking an extreme position which is
>> untenable and, ultimately, unsuccessful. The result is that you will
>> not convince others of your beliefs, that you will in fact alienate
>> those who would listen to you, that the "pragmatic" faction will
>> strive to quickly execute theirs, and that the resulting outcome is
>> not the best one possible.
>> I want to invite you, Greg, to participate in creating the best
>> possible outcome. That will _not_ be the one you _or_ I are currently
>> thinking of. This is not about selling out your beliefs; it's about
>> recognizing that the world out there is different from the world
>> inside your head.
> Wonderful post, Erik; just wonderful.
> --
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]

Sarcastic ?

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