[Foundation-l] Alternative to paypal

Debbie Garside debbie at ictmarketing.co.uk
Fri Aug 17 11:33:44 UTC 2007

This information should be given on the donor page.  If people are taking
the time to donate they may choose to donate in a more beneficial way.
However, if they are not privy to the information they will use the simplest
option - for them.

Best regards


> -----Original Message-----
> From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org 
> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Walter Vermeir
> Sent: 16 August 2007 23:18
> To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Alternative to paypal
> Brad Patrick schreef:
> > Well put, Delphine.
> > 
> > Others will look at this again, but there are no zero-cost 
> financial 
> > collection systems.  Moving money costs money.  Period.
> [cut]
> It is not universally free to all but i comes close;
> Money transfers from one European Union bank account to an 
> other EU bank account is the same price inside the EU for all 
> country's as a national transfer inside a member state is.
> In practice that means the transfer is free of charge or very 
> cheap deepening of your bank or the way that you give the 
> order (often a transfers by paper order needs to be paid, by 
> internet is free).
> A donation made by EU bank transfer of 1 euro is 1 euro that 
> the WMF actually get.
> A donation made by paypal of 1 euro is 0,62 euro that the WMF 
> actual gets.
> The WMF has now for years an EU bank account. It gets 
> donations but not a lot. I think that is for a large part 
> because paypal is more easy, at least if you have a credit 
> card and are willing to use it online.
> For paypal people can click on a few buttons and the have made the
> donation.   For a bank transfer the need to go to there bank 
> website and
> make a transfer like the would pay there electricity bill.
> The Paypal system makes an impulsive donation possible, bank 
> transfer is a like a bill you pay, it is not a decision you 
> make in a moment.
> Every donation made by a cheap system is extra money for the 
> WMF that can used. But every donation lost because people do 
> not trust/know/understand the payment system or gives them 
> time to think about what the are doing will cost the WMF even 
> more money.
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