[Foundation-l] Alternative to paypal

GerardM gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Thu Aug 16 15:16:06 UTC 2007

How do we know that we will be getting a negative return ? You assume
certain things. Earlier in this thread it was said that the relative success
of our fund-raisers is unique. Consequently it is clear that much of what we
do is unclear. It was only when I looked into getting money from the USA
that I considered Paypal. Moneybookers .. I do not know it and I did not
consider it because the people at the other end had Paypal. There is an
increasing amount of banks and financial institutions out there on the
Internet. From a Dutch point of view they are all way to expensive and I
think it an abomination that for the wrong reasons it is expected that we
continue to pay through the nose for the convenience of overpriced services.

When you compare the percentage that we pay to Paypal and what we would pay
to Google it is more then a slightly better margin. It amounts to a lot of
money. Indeed we should clearly indicate what has our preference and why..
that does not make us exclude any service that is on offer.


On 8/16/07, Andrew Gray <shimgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16/08/07, Debbie Garside <debbie at ictmarketing.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I am coming into this discussion rather late and am, as usual, reading
> > emails backwards :-) Apologies if my comments have already been covered.
> >
> > Perhaps it would be an option to allow a number of different ways to
> donate.
> We currently offer Paypal, Moneybookers, and a variety of "real ways"
> to give us money. The problem is, you start getting a negative return;
> bombard people with too many different donation boxes and they get
> confused and give up.
> So we need to keep it relatively tight; swapping one in or out is
> sensible, but adding three more might be counterproductive. No easy
> solutions :-)
> The other critical point here is that the "wonderfullness" of any
> given financial system is not just a matter of the conditions it
> offers or a slightly better margin on overhead - if it only has a tiny
> userbase, it's really not much use until that userbase gets bigger.
> --
> - Andrew Gray
>   andrew.gray at dunelm.org.uk
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