[Foundation-l] Policy governance ends

Tue Apr 17 15:55:32 UTC 2007

I think you misunderstand me.  I am not talking about
developers writing code for extentions, but simply a
developer "turning on" an existing extension or else
saying they will not turn on that extension unitil
some specified problem is fixed.

Birgitte SB

--- Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hoi,
> Do not put artificial constraints in. When an
> extension is realistic in 
> that it provides a service that will benefit a
> particular project or 
> even language, it may be that an investment in
> developer time of more 
> that three months is worth the effort. When a
> project is expensive, 
> there are all kinds of grants possible to gain
> either developer time or 
> money to pay for the development of this code. Often
> it is not only a 
> WMF project that does benefit from an extension.
> When such parties are 
> found and when the development becomes a shared
> effort much more becomes 
> feasible.
> 
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
> 
> Birgitte SB schreef:
> > The WMF provides the essential infrastructure and
> an
> > organizational framework for the support and
> > development of multilingual wiki projects. 
> Wikimedia
> > wikis must be able to technically adapt in an
> > individual manner to succeed.
> >
> > Needs to be met?
> > Local extension requests must be evaluated by a
> > developer with the ability to implement them
> within
> > three months.
> >
> > For whom? 
> > Wikimedia communities
> >
> > At what cost?
> > Not sure; at the cost of other bugs I suppose.  On
> the
> > waiting side, three months seems like a long time
> to
> > find out if an extension is acceptable or needs
> more
> > work.  But if it is not realistic to people on the
> > developer side, please adjust to any set time
> period.
> >
> >
> > Birgitte SB
> >
> >
> > --- Florence Devouard <Anthere9 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> In the past few days, I have explored more
> >> systematically the policy 
> >> governance model, and how it could be
> implemented.By
> >> the way, I found a 
> >> short article about it on the english wikipedia :
> 
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Policy_Governance
> >>
> >>
> >> One of the things the board has to design is what
> is
> >> called the ENDS.
> >> In each ends, the board defines which needs are
> to
> >> be met, for whom, and 
> >> at what cost.
> >>
> >> Let me give you two examples of ends.
> >> *******************************
> >>
> >>
> >> The WMF is the host provider of several websites,
> >> referred to as 
> >> Wikimedia project.  Wikimedia websites must be up
> >> and running 
> >> efficiently, 24/24 hours, 7 days a week. That is
> the
> >> priority of WMF.
> >>
> >> Needs to be met ?
> >> Information must be accessible anytime.
> >>
> >> For whom ?
> >> Any person with internet access
> >>
> >> At what cost ?
> >> Well, within limits reasonable with the revenue
> we
> >> have. If we had 
> >> figures to mention, we could say max 1 million
> per
> >> year.
> >> *******************************
> >>
> >>
> >> Another example
> >>
> >> The WMF is the organiser of an annual conference,
> >> Wikimania.
> >>
> >> Needs to be met ?
> >> Both a scientific conference and a community
> event,
> >> Wikimania brings 
> >> together members of various Wikimedia projects in
> >> order to exchange 
> >> ideas, build relationships, and report on
> research
> >> and project efforts.
> >> It also provides an opportunity for Wikimedians
> and
> >> the general public 
> >> alike to meet and share ideas about free and open
> >> source software, free 
> >> knowledge initiatives, and wiki projects
> worldwide.
> >>
> >> For whom ?
> >> Primarily for Wikimedians. Secondarily for the
> >> general public
> >>
> >> At what cost ?
> >> No cost. WMF should find sponsors to cover
> Wikimania
> >> costs by large.
> >> *******************************
> >>
> >> Now, these are two easy ends to define.
> >> What I would like to ask you help on, is to
> define
> >> more ends, which 
> >> describe what you think the WMF is about. The two
> >> ends I mentionned 
> >> above a "long term" ends, they would be listed
> this
> >> year, and then next 
> >> year and probably the year after. Not all ends
> are
> >> this way. We could 
> >> also have an end valid only one year, or only 3
> >> months.
> >> Let us say we want a BIG technical meeting around
> >> Mediawiki to occur in 
> >> the next 6 months, it would be one END.
> >> Or we want to produce a DVD of the english high
> >> quality content, it 
> >> could be another END.
> >> Actually, hiring an ED could also be an end :-)
> >>
> >> Now, before you tell me "eh, we elected you guys
> to
> >> think of that for 
> >> us", my answer will be "no, you elected us to
> >> represent your dreams 
> >> about WMF, and to make sure your dreams happen".
> >> So, what I am currently asking you is
> >>
> >> "What do you want Wikimedia Foundation to focus
> its
> >> attention on in the 
> >> next few months, few years or more".
> >>
> >> Whether you are members on the "paper" (bylaws)
> or
> >> not, morally, you are 
> >> the owners of the organization. I do not think
> the
> >> editors represent the 
> >> only owners, but the editors definitly are part
> of
> >> the owners. So, I ask 
> >> you your opinion as owners.
> >>
> >> What do you think we should achieve ? If you had
> 5
> >> points to list, what 
> >> would they be ?
> >>
> >>
> >> ant
> 
> 
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