[Foundation-l] Adminship tools on Commons

[Titoxd@Wikimedia]

Several things:
Temporary adminship is usually assigned for projects that either have no
administrators, or a limited number of administrators, and under some sort
of emergency (e.g. a spambot attacking Wikispecies with pictures of human
fecal matter). I am not sure about granting adminship to a large project
such as Commons, with an active community, for the purpose of a task that
does not require adminship. 
Assuming the summary is correct (that you consider translating the interface
directly to SVN a waste of time), then what would happen would essentially
be an even larger waste of time. First, you translate the messages, which
then have to be manually gathered and modified by a developer, and then the
message file is created. That alternative, when compared to making or
updating a message file directly is sluggish. As for updating local files -
that can be perfectly done through the normal Commons processes. As many
users indicated on both RfAs, you can just edit pages, and one of the
hundreds of Commons admins will do that for you. 
Finally, there is no such thing as an inherent "right to adminship", even if
you're an admin in another project, because you are talking about two
completely different communities. You could be the mayor of your town, but
be a complete stranger in another state - the exact same situation occurs
here. Sure, being an admin on another wiki will most likely have a positive
influence in other users' opinions, but at the end of the day, you have to
consider that the Commons community has to trust you. Assertions of "I will
come back to help" as the ones you made on your second RfA really have no
proof behind them; you simply do not have any track record *on Commons* that
will satisfy users' concerns. If you had the track record first, they would
be satisfied, and that's what a substantial portion of the opposition is
saying. Besides, this is really the wrong place to ask; the proper place
would be within Commons.
By the way, the reason there's an "en" on the top of Commons media pages is
not because they like en.wp, but because the toolserver barfs on the English
Wikipedia's database, throwing stale data, killing CheckUsage and other
toolserver-based tools. 
Titoxd.

-----Original Message-----
From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
[mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yoni Weiden
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:28 AM
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Adminship tools on Commons

I disagree. I think I am entitled to use the tools Wikimedia can offer in
order to translate the site. There is not reason to reject a temoprary
adminship, to say the least.
Yoni


2007/4/14, Casey Brown <cbrown1023 at comcast.net>:

> You really have no case for an appeal.  The Commons community may appoint
> whoever they want as administrators.  I am not taking sides, but you have
> no
> case.  The best place to take this up would be locally on the Commons
> Village pump or Administrators' noticeboard.
>
> Cbrown1023
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yoni Weiden
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 1:09 PM
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Adminship tools on Commons
>
> FYI, The first nommination has nothing to do with my request to translate
> the site and it is very old. In any case, who can help me appeal?
> Yoni
>
>
> 2007/4/14, Yoni Weiden <yonidebest at gmail.com>:
> >
> >  Hi,
> > I am talking about the following unfair vote:
> >
> >
>
>
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators/Requests_and_votes/
> Yonidebest-2
> > -
> >
> > (note that the link may not work because of the "-" at the end of the
> > link: I have once before opened a redirect from
> > Commons:Administrators/Requests_and_votes/Yonidebest-2
> > to
> > Commons:Administrators/Requests_and_votes/Yonidebest-2-
> > but it has been deleted before. I hope they wont delete my redirect
> again.
> > In any case - if the link doesnt work, please add a "-" at the end of
> the
> > address bar link).
> > Yoni
> >
> >
> > 2007/4/14, Casey Brown <cbrown1023 at comcast.net>:
> >
> > > Please provide some links or otherwise identifying material so that we
> > > can
> > > figure out what you are talking about.
> > >
> > > Cbrown1023
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> > > [mailto: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yoni
> > > Weiden
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:52 PM
> > > To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > > Subject: [Foundation-l] Adminship tools on Commons
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I feel my request to use the admin tools on Commons was unfairly
> > > rejected
> > > because of many many reasons. I would like to appeal this unfair
> > > decision of
> > > the voters and get my chance to present my case infront of a neutural
> > > set of
> > > people. I request this because I will not accept this kind of behavior
> > > in a
> > > Wikimedia site. This is, IMHO, against the ideas of Wikimedia and
> > > against
> > > the reasons for which Adminship exists. Can you please advise to whom
> I
> > > should speak to?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Yoni
> > > aka, Yonidebest at he.wiki
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