[Foundation-l] Adminship tools on Commons

Sat Apr 14 18:03:55 UTC 2007

--> "but at the end of the day, you have to consider that the Commons
community has to trust you"

Indeed. That is whay I brought support votes from my "town". You on the
other hand thought this was disguasting. My previous post says it all: I am
infact trustworthy.
Yoni

2007/4/14, Titoxd at Wikimedia <titoxd.wikimedia at gmail.com>:

> Several things:
> Temporary adminship is usually assigned for projects that either have no
> administrators, or a limited number of administrators, and under some sort
> of emergency (e.g. a spambot attacking Wikispecies with pictures of human
> fecal matter). I am not sure about granting adminship to a large project
> such as Commons, with an active community, for the purpose of a task that
> does not require adminship.
> Assuming the summary is correct (that you consider translating the
> interface
> directly to SVN a waste of time), then what would happen would essentially
> be an even larger waste of time. First, you translate the messages, which
> then have to be manually gathered and modified by a developer, and then
> the
> message file is created. That alternative, when compared to making or
> updating a message file directly is sluggish. As for updating local files
> -
> that can be perfectly done through the normal Commons processes. As many
> users indicated on both RfAs, you can just edit pages, and one of the
> hundreds of Commons admins will do that for you.
> Finally, there is no such thing as an inherent "right to adminship", even
> if
> you're an admin in another project, because you are talking about two
> completely different communities. You could be the mayor of your town, but
> be a complete stranger in another state - the exact same situation occurs
> here. Sure, being an admin on another wiki will most likely have a
> positive
> influence in other users' opinions, but at the end of the day, you have to
> consider that the Commons community has to trust you. Assertions of "I
> will
> come back to help" as the ones you made on your second RfA really have no
> proof behind them; you simply do not have any track record *on Commons*
> that
> will satisfy users' concerns. If you had the track record first, they
> would
> be satisfied, and that's what a substantial portion of the opposition is
> saying. Besides, this is really the wrong place to ask; the proper place
> would be within Commons.
> By the way, the reason there's an "en" on the top of Commons media pages
> is
> not because they like en.wp, but because the toolserver barfs on the
> English
> Wikipedia's database, throwing stale data, killing CheckUsage and other
> toolserver-based tools.
> Titoxd.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yoni Weiden
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 10:28 AM
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Adminship tools on Commons
>
> I disagree. I think I am entitled to use the tools Wikimedia can offer in
> order to translate the site. There is not reason to reject a temoprary
> adminship, to say the least.
> Yoni
>
>
> 2007/4/14, Casey Brown <cbrown1023 at comcast.net>:
>
> > You really have no case for an appeal.  The Commons community may
> appoint
> > whoever they want as administrators.  I am not taking sides, but you
> have
> > no
> > case.  The best place to take this up would be locally on the Commons
> > Village pump or Administrators' noticeboard.
> >
> > Cbrown1023
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> > [mailto:foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yoni
> Weiden
> > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 1:09 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Adminship tools on Commons
> >
> > FYI, The first nommination has nothing to do with my request to
> translate
> > the site and it is very old. In any case, who can help me appeal?
> > Yoni
> >
> >
> > 2007/4/14, Yoni Weiden <yonidebest at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >  Hi,
> > > I am talking about the following unfair vote:
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators/Requests_and_votes/
> > Yonidebest-2
> > > -
> > >
> > > (note that the link may not work because of the "-" at the end of the
> > > link: I have once before opened a redirect from
> > > Commons:Administrators/Requests_and_votes/Yonidebest-2
> > > to
> > > Commons:Administrators/Requests_and_votes/Yonidebest-2-
> > > but it has been deleted before. I hope they wont delete my redirect
> > again.
> > > In any case - if the link doesnt work, please add a "-" at the end of
> > the
> > > address bar link).
> > > Yoni
> > >
> > >
> > > 2007/4/14, Casey Brown <cbrown1023 at comcast.net>:
> > >
> > > > Please provide some links or otherwise identifying material so that
> we
> > > > can
> > > > figure out what you are talking about.
> > > >
> > > > Cbrown1023
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > [mailto: foundation-l-bounces at lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Yoni
> > > > Weiden
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:52 PM
> > > > To: foundation-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> > > > Subject: [Foundation-l] Adminship tools on Commons
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I feel my request to use the admin tools on Commons was unfairly
> > > > rejected
> > > > because of many many reasons. I would like to appeal this unfair
> > > > decision of
> > > > the voters and get my chance to present my case infront of a
> neutural
> > > > set of
> > > > people. I request this because I will not accept this kind of
> behavior
> > > > in a
> > > > Wikimedia site. This is, IMHO, against the ideas of Wikimedia and
> > > > against
> > > > the reasons for which Adminship exists. Can you please advise to
> whom
> > I
> > > > should speak to?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Yoni
> > > > aka, Yonidebest at he.wiki
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