[Foundation-l] models for adminship/wiki leadership

Birgitte SB birgitte_sb at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 11 13:00:51 UTC 2007


I agree it would make sense in larger wiki's, but I
would hate to see this become the default set-up.


Birgitte SB

--- Mark Williamson <node.ue at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it makes sense, though, because it would
> help prevent abuse.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 10/04/07, FloNight <sydney.poore at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On 4/10/07, Delphine Ménard <notafishz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > How about giving adminship not as a package but as
> an "opt-in" thing?
> >
> > You could become a "banner". Or a "blocker". Or a
> "protector". Or a
> > "deletor". Or all of those, or any of those you
> choose to be. Not
> > everyone knows how to use or can use wisely all
> the admin "powers".
> > Breaking them into what people really need could
> be a step towards
> > breaking the XP gain thing and levelling up to be
> an admin.
> >
> > You'd run for one of those or all of those and
> provide explicit
> > reasons why you chose those options and not those
> others.
> > ==============================================
> >
> > This has been suggested before. It has some merit.
>  One problem is that a
> > user might need to go through multiple RFAs. I
> think that might make the RFA
> > situation worse since we might begin over
> analyzing the traits a user really
> > needs for each skill. This type of over analysis
> is what many of us think is
> > the problem with RFA on EN Wikipedia now.
> >
> > Sydney
> >
> > On 4/10/07, Delphine Ménard <notafishz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 4/10/07, Sebastian Moleski <sebmol at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > On 4/10/07, Brianna Laugher
> <brianna.laugher at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I would just like some people to share some
> experiences and ideas they
> > > > > have from   other wikis, since the only two
> I know well are English
> > > > > Wikipedia and Commons.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you're looking for unique or unusual ways
> of selecting admins,
> > > > Wikiversity may be an interesting project for
> you. After some
> > > discussion, we
> > > > decided on a few intersting points. First,
> admins would be called
> > > custodians
> > > > to better resemble the behind-the-scenes yet
> very important role they
> > > have.
> > > > Candidates for custodianship have to go
> through a four week mentorship
> > > > period during which they have all the "powers"
> regular custodians have.
> > > In
> > > > order to do that, they need to secure a
> mentor, generally defined as a
> > > > custodian with at least 6 months experience as
> a custodian (or admin on
> > > > another project).
> > > >
> > > > After the four weeks, the mentor writes an
> evaluation for the candidate.
> > > If
> > > > the evaluation is negative, admin rights are
> removed from the candidate
> > > > unless he can secure a new mentor. If the
> evaluation is positive,
> > > there's a
> > > > five day period for comments from the
> community after which a bureaucrat
> > > > makes the final decision. There is no vote in
> this process.
> > >
> > > \o/
> > >
> > > I love this.
> > >
> > > Thank you for sharing this unusual and yet so
> much closer to reality
> > > piece of wiki world.
> > >
> > > A few weeks ago, a few en: editors and I were
> sitting in a room and we
> > > came up with the following idea (or was it with
> the Italians strolling
> > > outside in cold weather?):
> > >
> > > How about giving adminship not as a package but
> as an "opt-in" thing?
> > >
> > > You could become a "banner". Or a "blocker". Or
> a "protector". Or a
> > > "deletor". Or all of those, or any of those you
> choose to be. Not
> > > everyone knows how to use or can use wisely all
> the admin "powers".
> > > Breaking them into what people really need could
> be a step towards
> > > breaking the XP gain thing and levelling up to
> be an admin.
> > >
> > > You'd run for one of those or all of those and
> provide explicit
> > > reasons why you chose those options and not
> those others.
> > >
> > > I know there is a technical barrier for that
> now, but I seem to
> > > remember hearing that it could be pretty easily
> lifted.
> > >
> > > An idea. (you did ask for ideas too Brianna,
> didn't you? :-D)
> > >
> > > Delphine
> > >
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