[Foundation-l] models for adminship/wiki leadership

Mark Williamson node.ue at gmail.com
Wed Apr 11 09:22:50 UTC 2007


I think it makes sense, though, because it would help prevent abuse.

Mark

On 10/04/07, FloNight <sydney.poore at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/10/07, Delphine Ménard <notafishz at gmail.com> wrote:
> How about giving adminship not as a package but as an "opt-in" thing?
>
> You could become a "banner". Or a "blocker". Or a "protector". Or a
> "deletor". Or all of those, or any of those you choose to be. Not
> everyone knows how to use or can use wisely all the admin "powers".
> Breaking them into what people really need could be a step towards
> breaking the XP gain thing and levelling up to be an admin.
>
> You'd run for one of those or all of those and provide explicit
> reasons why you chose those options and not those others.
> ==============================================
>
> This has been suggested before. It has some merit.  One problem is that a
> user might need to go through multiple RFAs. I think that might make the RFA
> situation worse since we might begin over analyzing the traits a user really
> needs for each skill. This type of over analysis is what many of us think is
> the problem with RFA on EN Wikipedia now.
>
> Sydney
>
> On 4/10/07, Delphine Ménard <notafishz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 4/10/07, Sebastian Moleski <sebmol at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 4/10/07, Brianna Laugher <brianna.laugher at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would just like some people to share some experiences and ideas they
> > > > have from   other wikis, since the only two I know well are English
> > > > Wikipedia and Commons.
> > >
> > >
> > > If you're looking for unique or unusual ways of selecting admins,
> > > Wikiversity may be an interesting project for you. After some
> > discussion, we
> > > decided on a few intersting points. First, admins would be called
> > custodians
> > > to better resemble the behind-the-scenes yet very important role they
> > have.
> > > Candidates for custodianship have to go through a four week mentorship
> > > period during which they have all the "powers" regular custodians have.
> > In
> > > order to do that, they need to secure a mentor, generally defined as a
> > > custodian with at least 6 months experience as a custodian (or admin on
> > > another project).
> > >
> > > After the four weeks, the mentor writes an evaluation for the candidate.
> > If
> > > the evaluation is negative, admin rights are removed from the candidate
> > > unless he can secure a new mentor. If the evaluation is positive,
> > there's a
> > > five day period for comments from the community after which a bureaucrat
> > > makes the final decision. There is no vote in this process.
> >
> > \o/
> >
> > I love this.
> >
> > Thank you for sharing this unusual and yet so much closer to reality
> > piece of wiki world.
> >
> > A few weeks ago, a few en: editors and I were sitting in a room and we
> > came up with the following idea (or was it with the Italians strolling
> > outside in cold weather?):
> >
> > How about giving adminship not as a package but as an "opt-in" thing?
> >
> > You could become a "banner". Or a "blocker". Or a "protector". Or a
> > "deletor". Or all of those, or any of those you choose to be. Not
> > everyone knows how to use or can use wisely all the admin "powers".
> > Breaking them into what people really need could be a step towards
> > breaking the XP gain thing and levelling up to be an admin.
> >
> > You'd run for one of those or all of those and provide explicit
> > reasons why you chose those options and not those others.
> >
> > I know there is a technical barrier for that now, but I seem to
> > remember hearing that it could be pretty easily lifted.
> >
> > An idea. (you did ask for ideas too Brianna, didn't you? :-D)
> >
> > Delphine
> >
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