[Foundation-l] Where we are headed

[Anthere]

Anthony DiPierro wrote:
> On 6/4/06, Anthere <Anthere9 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>>Anthony DiPierro wrote:
>>
>>>On 6/3/06, Jimmy Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I agree completely.  But when we post everything we can publicly, have
>>>>open meetings, have community committees, and then people don't read it,
>>>>well, I don't agree that this is "being cut off".
>>>>
>>>
>>>A list of resolutions which have passed, in most cases without vote
>>>counts or any other information, with pending resolutions not even put
>>>into the view for months, is not "everything you can publicly".
>>>
>>>In fact, I asked your CFO over a year ago for a copy of the latest
>>>990, which is by law publically available and the IRS recommends for
>>>it to be posted on the foundation's website.  I have received nothing
>>>other than the very first 990-EZ which has finally arrived on the
>>>Guidestar website.  You haven't posted everything you can publicly.
>>>Not even close.
>>
>>Not the CFO fault :-)
>>
> 
> I know.  The CFO told me he didn't even have the document yet, even
> though it had already been filed.  Looking up the dates, the fiscal
> year ended June 30, 2004, the 990-EZ was originally due on November
> 15, 2004, assuming two extensions were granted it was then due by May
> 15, 2005, it's dated April 1, 2005 (ha), it was stamped as received by
> the IRS on June 28, 2005, the CFO still didn't have a copy of it on
> August 6, 2005,

Which may outline the need of a CEO...

and on June 6, 2006 the document still isn't posted
> anywhere on the foundation website (though it is now available through
> Guidestar).

Yes. I will ask Michael.

>>Our fiscal year run from june to june. The Foundation was created in
>>2003, but I am not sure the 990 2003 would make much sense to you. I
>>never saw it myself, though I was told my name appeared on it.
> 
> 
> Your name and what seems to be your address.

I moved :-)

> On or about January 6, 2006 I found a copy on the Guidestar website.
> I uploaded it to Wikimedia commons, and Delphine Ménard deleted it.

Copyrighted ?

> There was talk at that point about blacking out the officer addresses
> "and SSNs" (which I put in quotes because the document on Guidestar
> doesn't have any SSNs in it; it contains the EIN of the organization
> which is public knowledge and can be found on Florida's corporate
> information site) and uploading it to the foundation site.  This was
> supposedly taken to the internal mailing list.

I have no memory of that discussion... which does not prove it did not 
take place...
Dunno what are SSN's and EIN...

>>The 990 of 2004 was only recently sent. It actually contains some errors
>>which should be fixed soon. Since it is a public document, I suppose we
>>can put it on Foundation website once fixed? Or add a link if it is
>>available somewhere on the web ? Will check that.
>>As for the 990 2005, it is too early for it to exist.
>>
>>Ant
>>
> 
> I certainly would like a copy, and I'd rather not wait for Guidestar
> to get around to scanning it in first.  Additionally, if the
> organization is at all interested in transparency posting a copy of
> the latest 990s on the foundation website would be the appropriate
> response.
> 
> Anthony

When corrected, yes.

I asked to see the document after correction myself.

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