[Foundation-l] Vandalism and small wikis

Ray Saintonge saintonge at telus.net
Fri Dec 1 21:02:55 UTC 2006

Darko Bulatovic wrote:

>Yann Forget wrote:
>>Darko Bulatovic a écrit :
>>>That is very specific case, As in Switzerland live Italians, Germans and 
>>>Franks. In Montenegrin case in Montenegro lives 45% Montenegrin s, 35% 
>>>Serbs, Albanians, Bosnnjaks,...
>>>On other cases those countries was colonies of mayor European empires.
>>There is nothing specific about that. The examples given by Sabine is
>>perfectly valid. The problem is that you don't want to admit it.
>How much do you know about this? You are angry at me Yann? That I called 
>you to not make assumptions? Your assumptions affect half of million 
>people Yann.I hope that you relise that, as  I don't really understand 
>you. Sabine did at least showed  her point of view  here, and you just 
>make comments without any argument.
I don't think that Yann was expressing anger.  His suggestion to use the 
sh.wikipedia was a constructive one.  Of Montenegrin, Serbian, Albanian, 
and Bosnian mentioned above most people outside of the Balkans would see 
only Albanian as different enough from the others to merit being called 
a language.  To say that this issue will affect half a million people 
(by which I assume you mean the entire population of Montenegro) is 
overly dramatic; most of those people will just carry on normally with 
their lives no matter how the arguments here are resolved.

The five of us who have so far participated with you in this discussion 
are from five different countries (none of which is Serbia), and five 
different native languages.  I have seen three of the others regularly 
participate in discussions about language, so I would pay attentiont 
their opinions even when I don't agree with them. 

If you really want to do things for the Montenegrin language you could 
do better than argue in favour of the correlation  between nation and 
language.  Begin by giving references to existing Montenegrin dictionary 
and grammar books, showing Montenegrin words in Wiktionary and how they 
differ from other Serbo-Croatian languages, show us the important 
differences in Montenegrin grammar, or.add important out-of-copyright 
books by Montenegrin authors to Wikisource.


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