[Commons-l] Fwd: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons

Ryan Kaldari rkaldari at wikimedia.org
Mon May 16 04:43:46 UTC 2011

So you're arguing that the woman is topless in order to conform to realistic
portrayals of indigenous people? That's the biggest pile of bullshit I've
heard in years.

Every few months one of the usual suspects nominates porn to be featured on
Commons and we have to go through the same circus-show all over again. It's
always porn for a male heterosexual audience, and it's always defended with
cries against the evils of censorship and disingenuous arguments about the
"educational value" of the image. I'm all for Commons hosting a wide array
of uncensored images, but I'm tired of seeing the Main Page being used as a
fap gallery for fanboys. Whether you agree with it or not, featuring such
images is distasteful to a lot of people - and not necessarily because they
are "prudish" or "religious". I don't see how exercising editorial judgement
about our public image and being respectful of women is "compromising our
core values". Driving people away from the site and eroding our reputation
as a serious educational resource do nothing to improve the project. If you
want to fight against censorship, help defend the "Rape", "Rape statistics",
and "False accusation of rape" articles against antimisandry.com. Or better
yet, file a DMCA counter-notice to restore the links in the "Texas
Instruments signing key controversy" article. For some reason people don't
seem as concerned about the real incidents of censorship on our projects.

Ryan Kaldari

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Aaron Adrignola
<aaron.adrignola at gmail.com>wrote:

> Commons is not censored.  It's a beautiful scene and it would be expected
> that the an imaginary tribal member would not have the American
> sensitivities to toplessness.  Some images may offend.  Some articles may
> offend.  We're not going to compromise our core values just to try to close
> a "gap" that some feel is such a big issue, if it even exists.
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:31 PM, CherianTinu Abraham <
> tinucherian at gmail.com> wrote:
>> FYI
>> Regards
>> Tinu Cherian
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Sarah Stierch <sarah at sarahstierch.com>
>> Date: Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:33 AM
>> Subject: [Gendergap] Photo of the Day on Wikimedia Commons
>> To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects <
>> gendergap at lists.wikimedia.org>
>>  Surely I'm not the only one who noticed this lovely gem of a photo of the
>> day today. In my work environment - NFWS.
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
>> Direct link to image:
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg
>> I mean really? /facepalm
>> This is the kind of imagery I have no desire to see on the front page of
>> Commons. I'm a very liberal person, but, this makes me not want to even
>> allow my MOTHER to use Commons.
>> #wikilove,
>> Sarah
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