[Commons-l] Pikiwiki project problems

Mike.lifeguard mikelifeguard at fastmail.fm
Thu Jun 4 13:28:03 UTC 2009


On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 12:36 +0100, David Gerard wrote:

> 2009/6/4 Maarten Dammers <maarten at mdammers.nl>:
> > David Gerard schreef:
> 
> >> Anyone here have anything to say on the problems?
> 
> > You might want to read
> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Pikiwikisrael
> > It pretty much sums up all problems (and possible solutions!).
> 
> 
> From that thread, I think I can conclusively say: if Commons has been
> obstructively bureaucratic to the point that an entire chapter (WM-IL)
> will no longer work with it ... then Commons has *failed utterly* as a
> service project, and will need reining in at the Foundation level.
> 
> 
> - d.
> 



Yes, this whole episode has been a failure for all involved - there is
no shortage of blame to spread around. However pointing fingers at this
point is unlikely to be particularly helpful. Instead, we shoul focus on
fixing the problems which were raised (which are real), and reigning in
some of the more block-happy admins. There is absolutely no reason
whatsoever that this couldn't have been resolve amicably and without
blocking anyone or anything.

-Mike
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