[Advocacy Advisors] freedom of panorama

Wed Jun 24 18:57:47 UTC 2015

We could add something, but that Signpost article was published a while 
ago, I think.

Michael

> Michal Palenik <mailto:michal at palenik.sk>
> 24 June 2015 17:17
> hi micheal,
>
> should we add a special use cases to
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-06-17/In_focus
> eg "can I upload my photos to facebook?" "no because according to
> 2.1..."
>
> but in this specific case I assume that facebook/google/... has
> collective agreements with all authors/architects associations.
>
> michal
>
> Michael Maggs <mailto:Michael at maggs.name>
> 24 June 2015 16:57
> The argument that personal Facebook uploads are 'non-commercial' does 
> not hold water.
>
> Any private individual who uploads personal photographs to a social 
> media website will be affected, as most sites require users to warrant 
> that their uploads do not not infringe the intellectual property 
> rights of any third party. Anybody using social media to share even 
> private photographs that include a modern building or streetscape 
> within the view will be in breach of the warranty and will be at 
> significant legal risk.
>
> Also, many websites state in their small print that uploads are 
> automatically licensed to the site owner under a worldwide 
> non-exclusive licence for any purpose (even commercial). Uploaders 
> will not be in a position to  grant such a licence, as they will no 
> longer be the sole copyright owner of their own photographs.
>
> The relevant clauses in the Facebook legal terms can be found here: 
> https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
>
>   * 2.1    For content that is covered by intellectual property
>     rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give
>     us the following permission, subject to your privacy
>     <https://www.facebook.com/privacy/> and application settings
>     <https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=applications>: you grant
>     us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free,
>     worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in
>     connection with Facebook (IP License).
>
>   * 5.1    You will not post content or take any action on Facebook
>     that infringes or violates someone else's rights or otherwise
>     violates the law.
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
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> Jan Loužek <mailto:jan.louzek at wikimedia.cz>
> 24 June 2015 14:07
>
> He has to be convinced then that the commercial sharing is not as 
> simple issue as it is believed by Svoboda.
>
> https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Defining_Noncommercial Here. 18 
> MB of freading, cca 250 pages.
>
> Jan
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> > Od: Michal Palenik <michal at palenik.sk>
> > Komu: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov at gmail.com>
> > Datum: 24.06.2015 14:51
> > Předmět: Re: freedom of panorama
> >
>
> i've contacted
> ŠTEFANEC Ivan <ivan.stefanec at europarl.europa.eu>
> with some mixed results.
>
> he believes in press release by pavel svoboda
> http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=0519b32bd74df1cad7d02aa01&id=3d98dde117 
> <http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=0519b32bd74df1cad7d02aa01&id=3d98dde117>
> which says that "of course, facebook photos are non commercial". which
> i doubt.
>
> but after a second email:
>
> Každopádne je jasné, že presadzujem slobodu šírenia záberov okolia bez
> obmedzenia a podľa toho budem aj hlasovať.
>
> It is evident, that I acitvelly support
> freedom of spreading of panorama photos without (any) restrictions and
> I will vote according to this.
>
> michal
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:04:39AM +0200, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov wrote:
> > I was offering Schaake (ALDE NL) one and she said she's rwady to 
> coordinate
> > if no one else wants.
> >
> > Perhaps you can ask then to either join her effort or to take it up
> > themselves. Will send you the AM text, but Schaake still hasn't 
> tabled it.
> >
> > Dimi
> >
> > На сряда, 24 юни 2015 г. Michal Palenik <michal at palenik.sk> написа:
> > > hi, is the amendment for the plenary ready? I am contacting our MEPs..
> > >
> > > m
> > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:01:58AM +0200, Dimitar Parvanov 
> Dimitrov wrote:
> > >> The amendment was adopted with a vast majority (EPP and S&D 
> votes) by the
> > >> JURI committee, so it is already in the text. We're now trying to 
> get an
> > >> amendment in for the plenary vote. This requires 75 MEPs to 
> co-sign it.
> > We
> > >> need especially EPP ones to help it to send a message. If you 
> could find
> > >> some from SK, that would be awesome!
> > >>
> > >> As for a press release, the EN signpost article is very 
> comprehensive:
> > >>
> > 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-06-17/In_focus
> > >>
> > >> 2015-06-19 9:27 GMT+02:00 Michal Palenik <michal at palenik.sk>:
> > >>
> > >> > ok,
> > >> >
> > >> > just to clarify:
> > >> > it is "just" a yet unvoted on ammendmend by a MEP?
> > >> >
> > >> > is there a good press release? i would not want it to by "yet 
> another
> > >> > stupid thing done by brussels bureocracy".
> > >> >
> > >> > michal
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:26:38PM +0200, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
> > wrote:
> > >> > > Yes, I forgot to cc you in the main talk and you're probably 
> not on
> > the
> > >> > > advocacy advisors mailing list. We need three things:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -Media noise in each member state
> > >> > > -MEPs from each country to co-sign an amendment proposal from 
> plenary
> > >> > > -Find coalition partners that can help us do the first two.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I am putting Jan Louzek from WMCZ in cc. He's done an 
> outstanding job
> > >> > there
> > >> > > to make noise and hopefully can help give WMSK some tips how 
> we can
> > do
> > >> > the
> > >> > > same in SK.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Dimi
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2015-06-18 23:20 GMT+02:00 Michal Palenik <michal at palenik.sk>:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > hi
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > there is a big big talk about freedom of panorama ban by 
> european
> > >> > > > parliament. are there any things we can do to avoid it? or 
> is it
> > just
> > >> > > > panicing?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > ammendemt 421 by jean marie cavada
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> >
> > 
> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FNONSGML%20COMPARL%20PE-549.469%2001%20DOC%20PDF%20V0%2F%2FEN
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > michal
> > >> > > > --
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> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> >
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> > >> > michal palenik
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > michal palenik
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