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but that Signpost article was published a while ago, I think.<br>
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Michael<br>
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div>hi micheal,<br><br>should
we add a special use cases to<br><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-06-17/In_focus">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-06-17/In_focus</a><br>eg
"can I upload my photos to facebook?" "no because according to<br>2.1..."<br><br>but
in this specific case I assume that facebook/google/... has<br>collective
agreements with all authors/architects associations.<br><br>michal<br></div><div><!----><br></div></div>
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The argument that personal
Facebook uploads are 'non-commercial' does not hold water.<br>
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Any private individual who
uploads personal photographs to a social media website
will be affected, as most sites require users to warrant that their
uploads do not not infringe the intellectual property rights of any
third party. Anybody using social media to share even private
photographs that include a modern building or streetscape within the
view will be in breach of the warranty and will be at significant legal
risk.<br>
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Also, many websites state in their small print that uploads are
automatically licensed to the site owner under a worldwide non-exclusive
licence for any purpose (even commercial). Uploaders will not be in a
position to grant such a licence, as they will no longer be the sole
copyright owner of their own photographs.<br>
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The relevant clauses in the Facebook legal terms can be found here:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms</a><br>
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<ul>
<li>2.1 For content that is covered by intellectual property
rights, like
photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following
permission, subject to your <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.facebook.com/privacy/">privacy</a>
and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.facebook.com/settings/?tab=applications">application
settings</a>:
you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable,
royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on
or in connection with Facebook (IP License).</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>5.1 You will not post content or take any action on Facebook
that infringes
or violates someone else's rights or otherwise violates the law.</li>
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">24 June 2015
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margin:0 0 0 0;">He has to be convinced then that the commercial sharing
is not as simple issue as it is believed by Svoboda.</p>
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<p style="padding:0 0 0 0; margin:0 0 0 0;"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Defining_Noncommercial">https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Defining_Noncommercial</a>
Here. 18 MB of freading, cca 250 pages.</p>
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<p style="padding:0 0 0 0; margin:0 0 0 0;">Jan</p>
<p style="padding:0 0 0 0; margin:0 0 0 0;">______________________________________________________________<br>
> Od: Michal Palenik <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michal@palenik.sk"><michal@palenik.sk></a><br>
> Komu: Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com"><dimitar.parvanov.dimitrov@gmail.com></a><br>
> Datum: 24.06.2015 14:51<br>
> Předmět: Re: freedom of panorama<br>
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<p style="padding:0 0 0 0; margin:0 0 0 0;">i've contacted<br>
ŠTEFANEC Ivan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ivan.stefanec@europarl.europa.eu"><ivan.stefanec@europarl.europa.eu></a><br>
with some mixed results. <br>
<br>
he believes in press release by pavel svoboda<br>
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href="http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=0519b32bd74df1cad7d02aa01&id=3d98dde117">http://us9.campaign-archive2.com/?u=0519b32bd74df1cad7d02aa01&id=3d98dde117</a><br>
which says that "of course, facebook photos are non commercial". which<br>
i doubt.<br>
<br>
but after a second email:<br>
<br>
Každopádne je jasné, že presadzujem slobodu šírenia záberov okolia bez<br>
obmedzenia a podľa toho budem aj hlasovať.<br>
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It is evident, that I acitvelly support<br>
freedom of spreading of panorama photos without (any) restrictions and<br>
I will vote according to this.<br>
<br>
michal<br>
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On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:04:39AM +0200, Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
wrote:<br>
> I was offering Schaake (ALDE NL) one and she said she's rwady to
coordinate<br>
> if no one else wants.<br>
> <br>
> Perhaps you can ask then to either join her effort or to take it up<br>
> themselves. Will send you the AM text, but Schaake still hasn't
tabled it.<br>
> <br>
> Dimi<br>
> <br>
> На сряда, 24 юни 2015 г. Michal Palenik <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michal@palenik.sk"><michal@palenik.sk></a>
написа:<br>
> > hi, is the amendment for the plenary ready? I am contacting
our MEPs..<br>
> ><br>
> > m<br>
> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:01:58AM +0200, Dimitar Parvanov
Dimitrov wrote:<br>
> >> The amendment was adopted with a vast majority (EPP and
S&D votes) by the<br>
> >> JURI committee, so it is already in the text. We're now
trying to get an<br>
> >> amendment in for the plenary vote. This requires 75 MEPs
to co-sign it.<br>
> We<br>
> >> need especially EPP ones to help it to send a message. If
you could find<br>
> >> some from SK, that would be awesome!<br>
> >><br>
> >> As for a press release, the EN signpost article is very
comprehensive:<br>
> >><br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-06-17/In_focus">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-06-17/In_focus</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> 2015-06-19 9:27 GMT+02:00 Michal Palenik
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michal@palenik.sk"><michal@palenik.sk></a>:<br>
> >><br>
> >> > ok,<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > just to clarify:<br>
> >> > it is "just" a yet unvoted on ammendmend by a MEP?<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > is there a good press release? i would not want it to
by "yet another<br>
> >> > stupid thing done by brussels bureocracy".<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > michal<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:26:38PM +0200, Dimitar
Parvanov Dimitrov<br>
> wrote:<br>
> >> > > Yes, I forgot to cc you in the main talk and
you're probably not on<br>
> the<br>
> >> > > advocacy advisors mailing list. We need three
things:<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > > -Media noise in each member state<br>
> >> > > -MEPs from each country to co-sign an amendment
proposal from plenary<br>
> >> > > -Find coalition partners that can help us do the
first two.<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > > I am putting Jan Louzek from WMCZ in cc. He's
done an outstanding job<br>
> >> > there<br>
> >> > > to make noise and hopefully can help give WMSK
some tips how we can<br>
> do<br>
> >> > the<br>
> >> > > same in SK.<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > > Dimi<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > > 2015-06-18 23:20 GMT+02:00 Michal Palenik
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:michal@palenik.sk"><michal@palenik.sk></a>:<br>
> >> > ><br>
> >> > > > hi<br>
> >> > > ><br>
> >> > > > there is a big big talk about freedom of
panorama ban by european<br>
> >> > > > parliament. are there any things we can do
to avoid it? or is it<br>
> just<br>
> >> > > > panicing?<br>
> >> > > ><br>
> >> > > > ammendemt 421 by jean marie cavada<br>
> >> > > ><br>
> >> > > ><br>
> >> ><br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FNONSGML%20COMPARL%20PE-549.469%2001%20DOC%20PDF%20V0%2F%2FEN">http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FNONSGML%20COMPARL%20PE-549.469%2001%20DOC%20PDF%20V0%2F%2FEN</a><br>
> >> > > ><br>
> >> > > > michal<br>
> >> > > > --<br>
> >> > > > michal palenik<br>
> >> > > ><br>
> >> > > ><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > --<br>
> >> > michal palenik<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > michal palenik<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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michal palenik<br>
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