Sorry, I've already SSHd in; I can delete my homedir, you can pull access, and I'll be out the door, if you want.
Thanks, L235 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Well fine. So the directory path is /var/www/? So xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/ is located in /var/www/ec/ ?
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*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 6:24 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
He only has read bits to see how we configured stuff, but no write or mod.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hold on a second. New members need to be discussed first. I have absolutely no idea who L235 is.
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*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 6:05 PM
*To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
- the former ensures whatever version we have in whatever branch is
what's running in production. it's preferred over (s)ftp/scp nonsense, and ensures we don't deal with "scriptsv1.file" and "scriptsv2-wrong-one.file"
yeup. got keys?
yeah, we're not going to deal with NFS, but yes, scp, and download out
of desperation.
yeah, the entire legacy product is a sad bundle.
++
sure, I'll deal in a few.
unsure - the code is already on github. I'd be down for either or, but
believe since people already like github (I know I do) it'll probably stay there. Regardless, setting up hooks is simple.
Cheers,
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:52 PM, L235 Wikipedia < lixxx235wikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a couple minor things:
- Is there a difference between [cloning the git repo locally, making
the changes locally - with a GUI - and then committing, pushing, and pulling/cloning on the instance] and [updating via SFTP on a graphical client then committing and pushing on the instance]?
- Can't you inspect error logs via SSH/grep?
- The darned machine is connected over the internet; in the rare cases
you truly need a file, you can be a little creative. NFS it to another labs machine, or SCP, heck, put it in /var/www for long enough to download it if you're *that* desperate.
- What files do you have that aren't on the repo that you can't modify
over SSH? If there are many, might need to consider making installation easier.
- Again, SCP is a thing.
- I was going to ask this separately, but since I already have 10
bullet points, might as well here: could I have "member" access on the Nova project for this tool, so I can see how you're configuring things on the machine and possibly suggest improvements?
- Why are you guys hosting the code on GitHub instead of on the WMF
Git/Gerrit setup?
Thanks,
L235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:L235
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, true, but the visual aspect is still there. It could also come in handy to fetch an error log perhaps, or updating files that aren’t on the repo.
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*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *MusikAnimal *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 5:37 PM
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If we're talking just code changes, what's wrong with git and GitHub? A change you SFTP over will need to be committed and pushed to the repo anyway, no?
On 29 June 2015 at 17:27, Maximilian Doerr maximilian.doerr@gmail.com wrote:
I like SFTP, and simplifies many things for me. It also lets me use my FTP GUI which helps me to visualize the setup better. Seeing things visually helps me.
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People still use (S)FTP!?
If it's explicitly wanted, I'll setup the appropriate ports, but there's a reason why bastion is in place.
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
Can we SFTP into it at least?
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*From:* xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: xtools-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Eugene Lee *Sent:* Monday, June 29, 2015 4:54 PM *To:* Discussion list for xTools *Subject:* Re: [xTools] Getting the tools moved
There is no public_html folder! =] We're no longer using a shared environment.
This is your traditional LAMP stack (for each host of course) sans MySQL since we don't need a server.
Things get served from /var/www.
Like I said, what we need to figure out is what dependencies xtools has (in regards to PHP modules). In addition, file paths need to be pointed to this new directory (sidenote: relative paths are always better).
--leee
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Maximilian Doerr < maximilian.doerr@gmail.com> wrote:
With our environment on xtools.wmflabs.org set up we need to move it. But I’m still unclear with what Elee set up. Where’s the public_html folder located?
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