Respectfully, Kudpung, I agree with Cyberpower678 that your messages to
this list have been less productive than they could have been. They have
essentially been "the beatings will continue until morale improves"-style
messages, and we all know how well those work out.
For the record, I have met all of my commitments to this project. I have
continued to make one hour a week of my time available to this project, to
do anything I see that I can do within the capabilities I specified by
email to the list (sysadminning, making an effort to wrangle bugs, but not
primary development). I have continued to study PHP a little. I made my
limitations very, very clear before I was added as a maintainer of this
project.
Wikipedia is not, should not be, and has never been our top priority. Each
of us have our own career, our own boss (or instructor/professor/etc.), and
our own social lives separate from Wikipedia. We are all volunteers.
Although we should honor our commitments (to emphasize again, I did, and
beyond – IRC/etc.), it is unreasonable to blame us for factors outside of
our own control.
I recognize that xTools is vital to the project, and I have been making
efforts (even studying PHP, basically from scratch) to try to fix it.
Please feel free to send us messages describing the usage of this tool by
the community, and you are more than welcome to start contributing directly
(i.e. hack, code, sysadmin, etc.), but until you do, please don't try to
*supervise* us. (Again, suggestions, reminders, etc., are appreciated
regardless.)
I am trying to get in contact with Eugene to see if he can come back on the
project.
Respectfully,
L235, in my role as a maintainer and sysadmin of xTools
Kudpung, I honestly felt like your badgering was more like pushing me
around and demanding I do work on xTools in all off my free time. I never
said I had a bountiful amount of free time. I've always asserted that I
was missing the time needed to fully dedicate to the project, but I was
also the only one doing something code related. Now no one is. I was
never being dishonest about my lack of time. If you really need someone
who can truly dedicate the time, talk to Sigma. From what I gather, he's
more capable anyways. Anyways, I'm now focusing my time clearing out the
backlog over at bot requests, and maybe some RfC closures.
Cyberpower678
English Wikipedia Account Creation Team
Mailing List Moderator
On Sep 6, 2015, at 08:52, Chris <cs(a)edubkk.org> wrote:
" The first reason is that xTools requires a great deal of person's time
which is something I'm lacking. “
This is really the only reason. I’ve been encouraging, then badgering, then
badgering some more - but not bullying. And if we had had a clear and
honest answer like this months ago perhaps we would have found the people
we need.
Now, because of recent events, Wikipedia is in the shit, and we’re all up
shit creek without a paddle and can’t do anything about it.
Kudpung
On 6Sep, 2015, at 19:45, Maximilian Doerr <maximilian.doerr(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
The first reason is that xTools requires a great deal of person's time
which is something I'm lacking.
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