Hi all,
I haven't posted to this list in a while, but wanted to plug that there will be a community meeting on gender and related information on Wikidata.
This will take place on February 1, 2023 at 9:30AM PT/12:30PM ET/17:30 UTC (time zone converterhttps://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1675272629). Please see the attached calendar invite. Call details are also below.
The meeting will start with a brief overview of ongoing work to make gender-related information more precise, accurate, and ethical in Wikidata. We will identify current challenges and walk through a logic model on the handling of pronouns in Wikidata, as developed through the initial phase of this work. We welcome feedback, general discussion, and concerns from attendees with an eye towards collaboration on future work.
We hope to see you soon!
Alex Jung, Clair Kronk, and Crystal Yragui
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Date: February 1, 2023
Start time: 9:30AM PT/12:30PM ET/17:30 UTC (Time zone converterhttps://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1675272638)
Duration: 1.5hr
Agendahttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1vEusRuCLAL7-JA8kp7LU2y28RHg7E7Uh9OTPShYtTZI/edit?usp=sharing
Zoom information:
https://utoronto.zoom.us/j/87971846222
Meeting ID: 879 7184 6222
Passcode: drinkwater
HI folks,
Just a reminder that most of the world’s population lives in East and South-East Asia, so if you want us to participate in online meetings they really can’t be scheduled at 09:00 PT / 12:00 ET / 17:00 UTC. I’ve just received three invitations to sessions around those times, but that’s 6:00 AM for us in NZ and even worse for Australia, Indonesia, Taiwan, Thailand etc. I had to pull out of Organizer Lab because the mandatory meetings were at 4 AM on a Saturday. The Wikimania 2022 Asia/Oceania day was scheduled 09:00–15:00, the middle of the night in Asia/Oceania.
If even half these meetings were scheduled at compatible times for our hemisphere, that would be great. Yes, that means people in Europe, the UK, and the US would sometimes have to get up early or stay up late. Welcome to my world.
Whenever I complain about this I get the usual responses: “We don’t have the resources to run a second session” (why not?), “We’re looking at running things at different times next time” (they usually don’t, or there’s no next time), “The meeting organisers are all in Europe/USA” (why? Isn’t this a global movement?).
If we’re happy with the Wikimedia Movement being dominated by Europeans and Americans, by all means keep scheduling events at the times most convenient for them
Right, I’ll stop complaining! This is a perennial problem, but some of us in Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand will be trying to raise awareness of it in 2023.
Cheers,
—Mike
You have a very good point and I think the organizers will factor this in there planning so everyone is represented equally without any complain.
We are behind you and will keep supporting your call for justification.
Thank you Regards GJA
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 9:22 PM, Mike DIckison mike@rove.wiki wrote:
HI folks,
Just a reminder that most of the world’s population lives in East and South-East Asia, so if you want us to participate in online meetings they really can’t be scheduled at 09:00 PT / 12:00 ET / 17:00 UTC. I’ve just received three invitations to sessions around those times, but that’s 6:00 AM for us in NZ and even worse for Australia, Indonesia, Taiwan, Thailand etc. I had to pull out of Organizer Lab because the mandatory meetings were at 4 AM on a Saturday. The Wikimania 2022 Asia/Oceania day was scheduled 09:00–15:00, the middle of the night in Asia/Oceania.
If even half these meetings were scheduled at compatible times for our hemisphere, that would be great. Yes, that means people in Europe, the UK, and the US would sometimes have to get up early or stay up late. Welcome to my world.
Whenever I complain about this I get the usual responses: “We don’t have the resources to run a second session” (why not?), “We’re looking at running things at different times next time” (they usually don’t, or there’s no next time), “The meeting organisers are all in Europe/USA” (why? Isn’t this a global movement?).
If we’re happy with the Wikimedia Movement being dominated by Europeans and Americans, by all means keep scheduling events at the times most convenient for them
Right, I’ll stop complaining! This is a perennial problem, but some of us in Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand will be trying to raise awareness of it in 2023.
Cheers,
—Mike _______________________________________________ Wren mailing list -- wren@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wren-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
third that...
Le 31/01/2023 à 01:47, Gabriel Joe Amuzu a écrit :
You have a very good point and I think the organizers will factor this in there planning so everyone is represented equally without any complain.
We are behind you and will keep supporting your call for justification.
Thank you Regards GJA
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 9:22 PM, Mike DIckison mike@rove.wiki wrote:
HI folks, Just a reminder that most of the world’s population lives in East and South-East Asia, so if you want us to participate in online meetings they really can’t be scheduled at 09:00 PT / 12:00 ET / 17:00 UTC. I’ve just received three invitations to sessions around those times, but that’s 6:00 AM for us in NZ and even worse for Australia, Indonesia, Taiwan, Thailand etc. I had to pull out of Organizer Lab because the mandatory meetings were at 4 AM on a Saturday. The Wikimania 2022 Asia/Oceania day was scheduled 09:00–15:00, the middle of the night in Asia/Oceania. If even half these meetings were scheduled at compatible times for our hemisphere, that would be great. Yes, that means people in Europe, the UK, and the US would sometimes have to get up early or stay up late. Welcome to my world. Whenever I complain about this I get the usual responses: “We don’t have the resources to run a second session” (why not?), “We’re looking at running things at different times next time” (they usually don’t, or there’s no next time), “The meeting organisers are all in Europe/USA” (why? Isn’t this a global movement?). If we’re happy with the Wikimedia Movement being dominated by Europeans and Americans, by all means keep scheduling events at the times most convenient for them Right, I’ll stop complaining! This is a perennial problem, but some of us in Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand will be trying to raise awareness of it in 2023. Cheers, —Mike _______________________________________________ Wren mailing list -- wren@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wren-leave@lists.wikimedia.org-- GJA Regards
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Hey Mike, would you mind suggesting a time slot maybe for this weekend? I would love to talk to you and colleagues in your region that could attend Wikimania.
On Tuesday, January 31, 2023, Florence Devouard fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:
third that... Le 31/01/2023 à 01:47, Gabriel Joe Amuzu a écrit :
You have a very good point and I think the organizers will factor this in there planning so everyone is represented equally without any complain.
We are behind you and will keep supporting your call for justification.
Thank you Regards GJA
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 9:22 PM, Mike DIckison mike@rove.wiki mike@rove.wiki wrote:
HI folks,
Just a reminder that most of the world’s population lives in East and South-East Asia, so if you want us to participate in online meetings they really can’t be scheduled at 09:00 PT / 12:00 ET / 17:00 UTC. I’ve just received three invitations to sessions around those times, but that’s 6:00 AM for us in NZ and even worse for Australia, Indonesia, Taiwan, Thailand etc. I had to pull out of Organizer Lab because the mandatory meetings were at 4 AM on a Saturday. The Wikimania 2022 Asia/Oceania day was scheduled 09:00–15:00, the middle of the night in Asia/Oceania.
If even half these meetings were scheduled at compatible times for our hemisphere, that would be great. Yes, that means people in Europe, the UK, and the US would sometimes have to get up early or stay up late. Welcome to my world.
Whenever I complain about this I get the usual responses: “We don’t have the resources to run a second session” (why not?), “We’re looking at running things at different times next time” (they usually don’t, or there’s no next time), “The meeting organisers are all in Europe/USA” (why? Isn’t this a global movement?).
If we’re happy with the Wikimedia Movement being dominated by Europeans and Americans, by all means keep scheduling events at the times most convenient for them
Right, I’ll stop complaining! This is a perennial problem, but some of us in Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand will be trying to raise awareness of it in 2023.
Cheers,
—Mike _______________________________________________ Wren mailing list -- wren@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wren-leave@lists.wikimedia.org
-- GJA Regards
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