Dear All - we are a month away from the (last?) Wikimedia Summit and quite a few of us will be participating either online or in Berlin and I wonder if we should maybe have a session before to sync urgencies around this meeting.
I am still interested to help articulate a more proactive position for WiRs in WM 2030 strategy implementations (as we have been as WiRs on edge of few initiatives), but I fail to see us mentioned in any of the most recent conversations and also seen as change makers...
...there are still Wikipedians who think we do not exist, also with cutting down Alliance funds for Europe it is harder to get out of the movement entities support as well as to have a pathway to 2030 goals.
I talked briefly on this with Geert in end of 2023 (we both juggle many rolls to compensate for too much), also recently with Jake (on limits of conventional work) and I would love to extend this to those visiting Berlin.
Anyone?
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 7:37 PM Željko Blaće zblace@mi2.hr wrote:
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 6:37 PM Andrew Lih andrew.lih@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, this might be a good time to implement what we had talked about for the last year which is a "statement of WIR princples" that might be different than the meta page:
Cool. Statement of WIR principles sounds good, but might be a goal for a dedicated 2022 worksession?
In fact, I can already see that I don't fit some of what the meta page describes, which may focus on a pre-Wikdata definition of what a WIR does.
Indeed and decentering Wikipedia(n)s remains to be a challenge regardless of Commons and Wikidata prominence.
The difficulty in writing about WIR is that it may or may not be in line with a particular community's conflict of interest or paid editing policies. For example, French and Italian accept paid editors (even from for-profit corporate entities) quite openly, whereas some other communities (like English Wikipedia) would view them very unfavorably. So I'm open to ideas on what we might do to advocate for WIR in particular communities. It will be challenging to come up with just one page to capture all that.
I understand, but maybe we do not need to inscribe all precisely and in elaborate, rather point in direction of that 'in Residence' is not only about financial relations (even art residencies range from paid to those you have to pay)...rather - as WREN is supporting each other and being productive, informative and inspirational in novel ways. Anyone want to take on this together? I can commit to writing a lot on comparisons with art residencies as well experienced on it.
Here's a talk from 2014 Wikimania that discussed some of these dynamics, and also had some case studies of paid editing:
https://thewikipedian.net/2014/08/12/wikimania-2014-we-needed-to-talk-about-...
Cool. Will check out with recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc9YgFm2eso
Anyone else?
-Andrew
On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 9:15 PM Željko Blaće zblace@mi2.hr wrote:
Dear All - Last December 6th special meeting event on Wikipedia and NFT with a few invited guests made me think we could do meeting that are relevant beyond our immediate scope and be more visible... ...but also last week I was almost topic-banned on HR Wikipedia (Croatian) as none of the Admins knew what Wikimedian in Residence is and were thinking it is either paid editing or problematic self-promotion (when I was actually unemployed :-))) So after a successful event and a monthly HR drama, I am thinking what can we do better to increase WiR and WREN visibility on Wikipedia and Wikimedia.
For people coming from most of the arts the notion of artist-in-residence is super familiar and easy to relate to, but average Wikipedian (if there is such thing) has very few chances to come across this term as well as to grasp what Wikimedian in Residence is. Only 27 Wikipedia instances have articles on WiRs https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3809586
What could be good strategies to change that?
15 years ago (so we missed it by a week) on December 13, 2006 we got this text as a start
http://original-research.blogspot.com/2006/12/wikipedian-in-residence-propos...
Maybe we can draft something short quickly today and just pass it on later in the day to Wikimedia-L and potentially to the DIFF Blog of WMF?
Elsewhere?
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