Hey everyone,
[I may forward this on to Foundation-l depending on replies. The list has been very quiet recently.]
I just wanted to poke those interested in the long term plan for ten.wikipedia.org about our options, since basically all we're getting activity-wise on the site is the very occasional edit including some vandalism that has required revision deletions.
As discussed on the Village Pump,[1] it looks like filing a bug to close it (meaning only Stewards could edit, but the site would be preserved) is the most viable option. The question I have is: would people like to open a formal request to close the project on Meta or are they okay with me just going ahead and filing a bug?
Your input is appreciated,
The site and domains should remain (either archive as it is or keep editable with retrievable history) for historical reasons! Over many decades, it will be precious to get back and ponder.
Why not? I personally consider Wikipedia as the last greatest innovation of mankind that took place through another one, the vehicle of internet.
-Viswam
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 00:48, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey everyone,
[I may forward this on to Foundation-l depending on replies. The list has been very quiet recently.]
I just wanted to poke those interested in the long term plan for ten.wikipedia.org about our options, since basically all we're getting activity-wise on the site is the very occasional edit including some vandalism that has required revision deletions.
As discussed on the Village Pump,[1] it looks like filing a bug to close it (meaning only Stewards could edit, but the site would be preserved) is the most viable option. The question I have is: would people like to open a formal request to close the project on Meta or are they okay with me just going ahead and filing a bug?
Your input is appreciated,
-- Steven Walling Community Organizer at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:VP#Ideas_for_what_to_do_with_tenwiki_in_the...
WikiX-l mailing list WikiX-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikix-l
1) Technically we're in "year 10" so people might still reference it as an "open" matter until January 2012 (eg some kind of "Wikimedia 10 in perspective"). I wouldn't necessarily assume we archive it until then, in case there are any "end of year" stuff people add to it before it's closed.
2) Once it's archival interest only, then close it via bugzilla request - unlikely to be controversial so long as the data is publicly preserved. If we don't have a "Requests to close wikis" page on Meta we probably should create one.
3) Finally, we should devise some kind of canonical naming for old inactive wikis which are being kept for historical/archival interest but are closed to public editing. I'd suggest something like ten.archive.wikimedia.org -- hosting the same content but configured as read-only to all. Then leave ten.wikimedia.org as a one page soft redirect to this wiki. This will not be the only historical "old" wiki and a canonical naming system allows us to handle and index those to come.
FT2
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Steven Walling swalling@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hey everyone,
[I may forward this on to Foundation-l depending on replies. The list has been very quiet recently.]
I just wanted to poke those interested in the long term plan for ten.wikipedia.org about our options, since basically all we're getting activity-wise on the site is the very occasional edit including some vandalism that has required revision deletions.
As discussed on the Village Pump,[1] it looks like filing a bug to close it (meaning only Stewards could edit, but the site would be preserved) is the most viable option. The question I have is: would people like to open a formal request to close the project on Meta or are they okay with me just going ahead and filing a bug?
Your input is appreciated,
-- Steven Walling Community Organizer at Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:VP#Ideas_for_what_to_do_with_tenwiki_in_the...
WikiX-l mailing list WikiX-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikix-l
Lock the wiki and prevent all editing outright, it's the long-term solution. Closure is a short-term solution, but in the long-term locking would be better.
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:53 PM, James Lu mox.enwp@gmail.com wrote:
Lock the wiki and prevent all editing outright, it's the long-term solution. Closure is a short-term solution, but in the long-term locking would be better.
Just a note that a community member has started a closure discussion on Meta:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_wik...
Steven Walling, 07/10/2011 01:13:
Just a note that a community member has started a closure discussion on Meta:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_wik...
I haven't commented because I don't [strongly] disagree with the closure, but I've just bumped into a couple of things: https://strategy.wikimedia.org https://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Heritage I like the strategywiki approach: it's mainly an archive, but there's still some editing. On ten.wiki it's less likely, but at least pages like [[World Heritage]] would need to be moved on Meta to update them.
Nemo
On Oct 7, 2011 3:38 PM, "Federico Leva (Nemo)" nemowiki@gmail.com wrote:
Steven Walling, 07/10/2011 01:13:
Just a note that a community member has started a closure discussion on Meta:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_wik...
I haven't commented because I don't [strongly] disagree with the closure, but I've just bumped into a couple of things: https://strategy.wikimedia.org https://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Heritage I like the strategywiki approach: it's mainly an archive, but there's still some editing. On ten.wiki it's less likely, but at least pages like [[World Heritage]] would need to be moved on Meta to update them.
Nemo
Agreed about moving the World Heritage content. I'm happy to go ahead and do it myself now, not least of which because it will get more traffic on Meta at this point.
Steven _______________________________________________
WikiX-l mailing list WikiX-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikix-l