Hi,
Could someone help to explain why all we get is silence?
If we won't get any merchandise from WMF for the meetup and the Wiki-X event, then at least let us know so we won't keep waiting.
If the merchandise has been shipped to us, then we can hold another activity for it since the shipping is already late and we couldn't make it for the meetup tomorrow.
Thanks.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my Nexus One. LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate 2011-1-28 下午2:38 於 "Ted Chien" hsiangtai.chien@gmail.com 寫道：
I would like to know if there will be any merchandise shipping to
Wikimedia Taiwan. Our Winter Meetup and Wiki 10 celebration event will be held on this Sunday. If we don't receive the merchandise by tomorrow, then it would not be possible to give the merchandise to any Taiwanese Wikimedian attendees.
Thanks.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
----- Reply message ----- 寄件者： "Suraj Sapkota" ssapkota@gmail.com 日期： 周二, 1 月 25 日, 2011 年 7:33 下午 主旨： [WikiX-l] Post-anniversary shipments 收件者： "Planning for WP 10th anniversary" wikix-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Hi Ted,
Sorry for the late response to your request from the 18th.
As I've pointed out in the original emails to the list about shipping deadlines, we need a minimum of 7-10 business days just for shipping time. That doesn't count time for customs or any delays in shipping due to weather etc., so shipping from the 18th when you sent out your request would probably not have made it in time.
On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Ted Chien wrote:
Hi,
Could someone help to explain why all we get is silence?
If we won't get any merchandise from WMF for the meetup and the Wiki-X event, then at least let us know so we won't keep waiting.
If the merchandise has been shipped to us, then we can hold another activity for it since the shipping is already late and we couldn't make it for the meetup tomorrow.
Thanks.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my Nexus One. LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
2011-1-28 下午2:38 於 "Ted Chien" hsiangtai.chien@gmail.com 寫道：
I would like to know if there will be any merchandise shipping to Wikimedia Taiwan. Our Winter Meetup and Wiki 10 celebration event will be held on this Sunday. If we don't receive the merchandise by tomorrow, then it would not be possible to give the merchandise to any Taiwanese Wikimedian attendees.
Thanks.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
----- Reply message ----- 寄件者： "Suraj Sapkota" ssapkota@gmail.com 日期： 周二, 1 月 25 日, 2011 年 7:33 下午 主旨： [WikiX-l] Post-anniversary shipments 收件者： "Planning for WP 10th anniversary" wikix-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Steven Walling Fellow at the Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
Hi Steven,
Thanks for the reply, but I believe I've sent you the request (with address and the name of the receiver) on Jan 2 (CA time), and I sent you another mail asking for confirmation for the delivery. However, there's no response I've got. This not only happened in our case but also in Hong Kong case. I really appreciated your hard working on this wonderful party pack, and I also understand it would be a huge work to deliver packs to over 400 different places, but lacks of response will make us feel we are throwing a ball to an endless hole and we might be waiting for something that would never been shipped. Maybe we can have some solution for this in the future so we can avoid this kind of situation?
If there will be this kind of mass shipping in the future (and I think there will be), maybe we can have a Shipping Status page on the Internal wiki with:
* Shipping Receiver * Shipping Status Update * FedEx tracking numbers
So people can know it's been shipped (or not) and won't keep asking you. What do you think?
Thanks and Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my Nexus One. LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate 2011-1-31 上午10:04 於 "Steven Walling" swalling@wikimedia.org 寫道：
Hi Ted,
Sorry for the late response to your request from the 18th.
As I've pointed out in the original emails to the list about shipping
deadlines, we need a minimum of 7-10 business days just for shipping time. That doesn't count time for customs or any delays in shipping due to weather etc., so shipping from the 18th when you sent out your request would probably not have made it in time.
On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Ted Chien wrote:
Hi,
Could someone help to explain why all we get is silence?
If we won't get any merchandise from WMF for the meetup and the Wiki-X
event, then at least let us know so we won't keep waiting.
If the merchandise has been shipped to us, then we can hold another
activity for it since the shipping is already late and we couldn't make it for the meetup tomorrow.
Thanks.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my Nexus One. LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
2011-1-28 下午2:38 於 "Ted Chien" hsiangtai.chien@gmail.com 寫道：
I would like to know if there will be any merchandise shipping to
Wikimedia Taiwan. Our Winter Meetup and Wiki 10 celebration event will be held on this Sunday. If we don't receive the merchandise by tomorrow, then it would not be possible to give the merchandise to any Taiwanese Wikimedian attendees.
Thanks.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
----- Reply message ----- 寄件者： "Suraj Sapkota" ssapkota@gmail.com 日期： 周二, 1 月 25 日, 2011 年 7:33 下午 主旨： [WikiX-l] Post-anniversary shipments 收件者： "Planning for WP 10th anniversary" wikix-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Steven Walling Fellow at the Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
That's a positive suggestion, but I don't think it would be effective in this case for two reasons:
1. Most of the shipments were not to people who have access to Internal. Quite a few of them aren't even signed up for this public mailing list.
2. The purpose of a wiki is getting input from as many people as possible, but shipping will always be the responsibility of a just a few particular folks handling the actual products. That doesn't change whether you're communicating via wiki, email, or blog.
On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:00 PM, Ted Chien wrote:
Hi Steven,
Thanks for the reply, but I believe I've sent you the request (with address and the name of the receiver) on Jan 2 (CA time), and I sent you another mail asking for confirmation for the delivery. However, there's no response I've got. This not only happened in our case but also in Hong Kong case. I really appreciated your hard working on this wonderful party pack, and I also understand it would be a huge work to deliver packs to over 400 different places, but lacks of response will make us feel we are throwing a ball to an endless hole and we might be waiting for something that would never been shipped. Maybe we can have some solution for this in the future so we can avoid this kind of situation?
If there will be this kind of mass shipping in the future (and I think there will be), maybe we can have a Shipping Status page on the Internal wiki with:
- Shipping Receiver
- Shipping Status Update
- FedEx tracking numbers
So people can know it's been shipped (or not) and won't keep asking you. What do you think?
Thanks and Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my Nexus One. LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
2011-1-31 上午10:04 於 "Steven Walling" swalling@wikimedia.org 寫道：
Hi Ted,
Sorry for the late response to your request from the 18th.
As I've pointed out in the original emails to the list about shipping deadlines, we need a minimum of 7-10 business days just for shipping time. That doesn't count time for customs or any delays in shipping due to weather etc., so shipping from the 18th when you sent out your request would probably not have made it in time.
On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Ted Chien wrote:
Hi,
Could someone help to explain why all we get is silence?
If we won't get any merchandise from WMF for the meetup and the Wiki-X event, then at least let us know so we won't keep waiting.
If the merchandise has been shipped to us, then we can hold another activity for it since the shipping is already late and we couldn't make it for the meetup tomorrow.
Thanks.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my Nexus One. LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
2011-1-28 下午2:38 於 "Ted Chien" hsiangtai.chien@gmail.com 寫道：
I would like to know if there will be any merchandise shipping to Wikimedia Taiwan. Our Winter Meetup and Wiki 10 celebration event will be held on this Sunday. If we don't receive the merchandise by tomorrow, then it would not be possible to give the merchandise to any Taiwanese Wikimedian attendees.
Thanks.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
----- Reply message ----- 寄件者： "Suraj Sapkota" ssapkota@gmail.com 日期： 周二, 1 月 25 日, 2011 年 7:33 下午 主旨： [WikiX-l] Post-anniversary shipments 收件者： "Planning for WP 10th anniversary" wikix-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Steven Walling Fellow at the Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
Steven Walling Fellow at the Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
Hi Steven,
2011-1-31 下午1:58 於 "Steven Walling" swalling@wikimedia.org 寫道：
That's a positive suggestion, but I don't think it would be effective in
this case for two reasons:
- Most of the shipments were not to people who have access to Internal.
Quite a few of them aren't even signed up for this public mailing list.
Then find some place that all people can have access to host the information. I think the Ten wiki could be a good place.
- The purpose of a wiki is getting input from as many people as possible,
but shipping will always be the responsibility of a just a few particular folks handling the actual products. That doesn't change whether you're communicating via wiki, email, or blog.
I think the purpose of a wiki is not only for people to input but also for people to share information. I agree the shipping is the responsibility of a few folks handling the product, but it would effect people who join our events.
Because I have expected the shipping might not arrive before our event from the Hong Kong case, we didn't tell people about the Party Pack but made our own Wiki-X buttons. We still have a good time in our Wiki-X event.
On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:00 PM, Ted Chien wrote:
Hi Steven,
Thanks for the reply, but I believe I've sent you the request (with
address and the name of the receiver) on Jan 2 (CA time), and I sent you another mail asking for confirmation for the delivery. However, there's no response I've got. This not only happened in our case but also in Hong Kong case. I really appreciated your hard working on this wonderful party pack, and I also understand it would be a huge work to deliver packs to over 400 different places, but lacks of response will make us feel we are throwing a ball to an endless hole and we might be waiting for something that would never been shipped. Maybe we can have some solution for this in the future so we can avoid this kind of situation?
If there will be this kind of mass shipping in the future (and I think
there will be), maybe we can have a Shipping Status page on the Internal wiki with:
- Shipping Receiver
- Shipping Status Update
- FedEx tracking numbers
So people can know it's been shipped (or not) and won't keep asking you.
What do you think?
Thanks and Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my Nexus One. LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
2011-1-31 上午10:04 於 "Steven Walling" swalling@wikimedia.org 寫道：
Hi Ted,
Sorry for the late response to your request from the 18th.
As I've pointed out in the original emails to the list about shipping
deadlines, we need a minimum of 7-10 business days just for shipping time. That doesn't count time for customs or any delays in shipping due to weather etc., so shipping from the 18th when you sent out your request would probably not have made it in time.
On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Ted Chien wrote:
Hi,
Could someone help to explain why all we get is silence?
If we won't get any merchandise from WMF for the meetup and the Wiki-X
event, then at least let us know so we won't keep waiting.
If the merchandise has been shipped to us, then we can hold another
activity for it since the shipping is already late and we couldn't make it for the meetup tomorrow.
Thanks.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my Nexus One. LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
2011-1-28 下午2:38 於 "Ted Chien" hsiangtai.chien@gmail.com 寫道：
I would like to know if there will be any merchandise shipping to
Wikimedia Taiwan. Our Winter Meetup and Wiki 10 celebration event will be held on this Sunday. If we don't receive the merchandise by tomorrow, then it would not be possible to give the merchandise to any Taiwanese Wikimedian attendees.
Thanks.
Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my HTC EVO 4G LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
----- Reply message ----- 寄件者： "Suraj Sapkota" ssapkota@gmail.com 日期： 周二, 1 月 25 日, 2011 年 7:33 下午 主旨： [WikiX-l] Post-anniversary shipments 收件者： "Planning for WP 10th anniversary" <wikix-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Steven Walling Fellow at the Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
Steven Walling Fellow at the Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org
Regards, Ted Chien -- Sent from my Nexus One. LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/htchien
Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate
On 01/31/2011 08:26 AM, Ted Chien wrote:
Hi Steven,
2011-1-31 下午1:58 於 "Steven Walling" <swalling@wikimedia.org mailto:swalling@wikimedia.org> 寫道：
That's a positive suggestion, but I don't think it would be
effective in this case for two reasons:
- Most of the shipments were not to people who have access to
Internal. Quite a few of them aren't even signed up for this public mailing list.
Then find some place that all people can have access to host the information. I think the Ten wiki could be a good place.
- The purpose of a wiki is getting input from as many people as
possible, but shipping will always be the responsibility of a just a few particular folks handling the actual products. That doesn't change whether you're communicating via wiki, email, or blog.
I think the purpose of a wiki is not only for people to input but also for people to share information. I agree the shipping is the responsibility of a few folks handling the product, but it would effect people who join our events.
Because I have expected the shipping might not arrive before our event from the Hong Kong case, we didn't tell people about the Party Pack but made our own Wiki-X buttons. We still have a good time in our Wiki-X event.
Alike case here, hr Wikipedia is having second wikimeeting in 17 days, first email is sent some 3 weeks ago and no response from then. It would be nice to have any response - there is no problem if there is no more goods, or not enough time, but we would like to know whichever is the case. I know that it is lot of work to handle a few hundreds locations/requests, and it is lot of work just to let people know who will get something and who will not - and that serves no actual higher purpose, but if that is possible to arrange somehow (via wiki or something) that we all know status of our "orders", I would vote in favor of such solution, because human nature is to be impatient and having information on time helps.
Kind regards
SpeedyGonsales, Wikimedia Croatia