Oh, I forgot, this is the same problem we've been having: magic words aren't enough. We need a way to get the last revision date of the page that included the template, not the last revision date of the template itself. -- Minh Nguyen <mxn(a)zoomtown.com> AIM: trycom2000; Jabber: mxn(a)myjabber.net; Blog: http://mxn.f2o.org/