I'm surprised to discover that this works:
---- [[Foo|
blah
blah]] ----
And so does this:
---- [[Image:foo.jpg|
blah
|
thumb
]] ----
And even: ---- [[image:foo.jpg|
some text over here|thumb ]] ----
And even more annoyingly: ---- [[Link|
***This is not a list
]] ----
In all these cases all the newlines in link or image captions are collapsed down to a single whitespace.
So, the usual questions arise: 1. Does anyone know about, let alone use, this feature? 2. Is it useful? 3. Would anyone mind if it was gone?
My concerns are: 1. Lines that look like lists or space-indented text may not be (which reduces the number of ways you can parse the text) 2. The behaviour of newlines is different from normal text (normally 2 newlines in a row would give you a paragraph break) 3. The behaviour of newlines is different before and after the first pipe.
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: wikitext-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitext-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Steve Bennett Sent: 03 December 2007 23:09 To: Wikitext-l Subject: [Wikitext-l] Newlines in link captions
I'm surprised to discover that this works:
[[Foo|
blah
blah]]
And so does this:
[[Image:foo.jpg|
blah
|
thumb
]]
And even:
[[image:foo.jpg|
some text over here|thumb]]
And even more annoyingly:
[[Link|
***This is not a list
]]
In all these cases all the newlines in link or image captions are collapsed down to a single whitespace.
So, the usual questions arise:
- Does anyone know about, let alone use, this feature?
- Is it useful?
- Would anyone mind if it was gone?
My concerns are:
- Lines that look like lists or space-indented text may not be (which
reduces the number of ways you can parse the text) 2. The behaviour of newlines is different from normal text (normally 2 newlines in a row would give you a paragraph break) 3. The behaviour of newlines is different before and after the first pipe.
That causes schema violations for the current parser, if don't have tidy repairing.
[[Link| ==h2== ----hr ]]
Jared
I doubt if anyone is using this feature intentionally, but many of us have benefited from it unintentionally. When an image caption is generated by a template, particularly a large & complex template, it often ends up with a lot of unexpected whitespace inside. I'm not saying this is good, or that those templates couldn't be better-written... however, open wikis being what they are, IMO the current approach makes sense.
-- Sam / Visviva
On Dec 4, 2007 8:49 AM, Jared Williams jared.williams1@ntlworld.com wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: wikitext-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitext-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Steve Bennett Sent: 03 December 2007 23:09 To: Wikitext-l Subject: [Wikitext-l] Newlines in link captions
I'm surprised to discover that this works:
[[Foo|
blah
blah]]
And so does this:
[[Image:foo.jpg|
blah
|
thumb
]]
And even:
[[image:foo.jpg|
some text over here|thumb]]
And even more annoyingly:
[[Link|
***This is not a list
]]
In all these cases all the newlines in link or image captions are collapsed down to a single whitespace.
So, the usual questions arise:
- Does anyone know about, let alone use, this feature?
- Is it useful?
- Would anyone mind if it was gone?
My concerns are:
- Lines that look like lists or space-indented text may not be (which
reduces the number of ways you can parse the text) 2. The behaviour of newlines is different from normal text (normally 2 newlines in a row would give you a paragraph break) 3. The behaviour of newlines is different before and after the first pipe.
That causes schema violations for the current parser, if don't have tidy repairing.
[[Link| ==h2== ----hr ]]
Jared
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On 12/4/07, Samuel Henderson samueljhenderson@gmail.com wrote:
I doubt if anyone is using this feature intentionally, but many of us have benefited from it unintentionally. When an image caption is generated by a template, particularly a large & complex template, it often ends up with a lot of unexpected whitespace inside. I'm not saying this is good, or that those templates couldn't be better-written... however, open wikis being what they are, IMO the current approach makes sense.
Do you have an example of this kind of thing? Would it be sensible to restrict the multi-line behaviour to just image captions rather than other link captions? Also, should double-newlines be allowed?
Steve
On 12/4/07, Jared Williams jared.williams1@ntlworld.com wrote:
That causes schema violations for the current parser, if don't have tidy repairing.
[[Link| ==h2== ----hr ]]
What do you mean by "schema violations"? Your example is even crazier than mine, though, with even weirder results.
Steve
-----Original Message----- From: wikitext-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitext-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Steve Bennett Sent: 04 December 2007 02:46 To: Wikitext-l Subject: Re: [Wikitext-l] Newlines in link captions
On 12/4/07, Jared Williams jared.williams1@ntlworld.com wrote:
That causes schema violations for the current parser, if don't have tidy repairing.
[[Link| ==h2== ----hr ]]
What do you mean by "schema violations"? Your example is even crazier than mine, though, with even weirder results.
Invalid HTML/XHTML.
<a href="/mediawiki/index.php?title=Link&action=edit" class="new" title="Link"> <h2>h2</h2> <hr />hr </a>
Jared
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