“long-term we are trying to
make template nesting more sane.”
for now, do you have a list that which templates should emit properly
nested output?
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> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Feng Yi <zlfengyi(a)google.com> wrote:
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> > I have another two question:
> > 1. According to the roadmap, you will research the “HTML-only wiki
> > support” and “DOM-based templating”. Does it mean that if you launch
> these
> > functions, wikitext will no longer be supported, even the round-trip
> > doesn’t work?
> >
>
> At least initially, HTML-only wiki support will mean that it is *possible*
> to install an HTML-only wiki, not that it is required.
>
> DOM-based templating is an orthogonal issue; long-term we are trying to
> make template nesting more sane.
>
> 2. In “MediaWiki_DOM_spec” there are a lot of discussing and implemented
> > status. Will the parsoid output change a lot in the future? What is the
> > approximate percentage?
> >
>
> Sections which are not explicitly marked w/ discussion or 'implementing'
> are expected to remain stable. We reserve the right to change the spec if
> needed, but most of it is in production use and working satisfactorily and
> is not expected to change. The most in-flux bits are the bits which are
> not currently implemented and/or supported by Visual Editor. Our process
> is to work out a spec proposal with the Visual Editor team, implement it in
> Parsoid, then implement support for the new feature in Visual Editor.
> During these stages the spec is often found deficient in some way and is
> fixed. Once the feature lands in Visual Editor and is deployed, we have
> reasonable confidence that the spec is correct and will not need to be
> changed further.
> --scott
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Hi,
Edit summary can't be longer than 255 bytes. Bug
4715<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4715> which
wants to support longer summary won't be patched in a short period, or
won't fix. Bug 40035
<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40035> shows
the counter by exposing how much bytes left directly to the user. But it
will still confuse the user in other languages.
I think a indicator which contains four gray lines will help. With the
content of edit summary increasing, the indicator decrease the number of
lines. When edit summary takes up more than 255 bytes, the indicator
increases red lines for warning and the save button is disabled instead of
wrap content of the edit summary.
In this way, the indicator works consistently with any characters at least.
--
Regards,
Erick Guan/管啸 (fantasticfears)
Hi Subbu,
I have another two question:
1. According to the roadmap, you will research the “HTML-only wiki support”
and “DOM-based templating”. Does it mean that if you launch these
functions, wikitext will no longer be supported, even the round-trip
doesn’t work?
2. In “MediaWiki_DOM_spec” there are a lot of discussing and implemented
status. Will the parsoid output change a lot in the future? What is the
approximate percentage?
Thanks
Feng Yi
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> On 09/10/2013 02:18 AM, Feng Yi wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm in google wiki knowledge team and currently work on Parsoid.
> > I found there are some diffs between
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/MediaWiki_DOM_spec and real
> > Parsoid output.
> > For example: /RFC 1945 /
> > in page:
> > <arel="mw:ExtLink/PMID"
> > resource="http://purl.org/commons/html/pmid/20610307"
> > href="//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20610307?dopt=Abstract <
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20610307?dopt=Abstract>"
> > about="#_:PMID-20610307-1234"
> > class="external mw-magiclink-pmid">
> > PMID 20610307
> > </a>
> > in Parsoid:
> > *<a typeof="mw:ExtLink/RFC" href="//tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1945
> > <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1945>" rel="mw:ExtLink/RFC">RFC
> > 1945</a></p>*
> > /
> > /
> > I have removed the "parsoid-data" and other global tags, but still
> > a lot of diff.
> > The page is updated several days ago, so is the released Parsoid
> > not newest?
> >
> Hi Feng,
>
> The spec for RFC is this:
>
> <a rel="mw:ExtLink/RFC"
> href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1945"
> resource="urn:ietf:rfc:1945"
> about="#_RFC-1945-1234"
> class="external mw-magiclink-rfc">
> RFC 1945
> </a>
>
> and output after discarding data-parsoid is:
>
> <a rel="mw:ExtLink/RFC"
> href="//tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1945"
> typeof="mw:ExtLink/RFC">
> RFC 1945
> </a>
>
> So, there are diffs, yes. We are in the process of cleaning up our spec
> (and actively making a few changes) -- in some cases, the spec is
> outdated, and in other cases, the spec has information about proposed
> changes (but not yet implemented). In the next week or so, we'll try to
> clean up our spec (removing/updating outdated information, or adding
> annotations where the spec is proposing changes).
>
> Thanks for alerting us about the mismatch.
>
> Subbu.
>
Hi,
I'm in google wiki knowledge team and currently work on Parsoid.
I found there are some diffs between
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/MediaWiki_DOM_spec and real Parsoid
output.
For example: *RFC 1945 *
in page:
<a rel="mw:ExtLink/PMID"
resource="http://purl.org/commons/html/pmid/20610307"
href="//www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20610307?dopt=Abstract"
about="#_:PMID-20610307-1234" class="external mw-magiclink-pmid">
PMID 20610307</a>
in Parsoid:
*<a typeof="mw:ExtLink/RFC" href="//tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1945"
rel="mw:ExtLink/RFC">RFC 1945</a></p>*
*
*
I have removed the "parsoid-data" and other global tags, but still a lot
of diff.
The page is updated several days ago, so is the released Parsoid not
newest?
Thanks
Feng Yi
Hi all,
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid#Getting_started says:
Getting started
For a quick overview, you can test drive Parsoid using a node web
service. Development happens in the Parsoid extension in Git (see tree).
If you need help, you can contact us in #mediawiki-parsoid or the
wikitext-l mailing list.
Parsoid setup
If you want to do an anonymous checkout.
git clone
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/extensions/Parsoid.git
This is what I did.
What's next? No "./configure", no "make" - what is the next step?
Olaf