I strongly disagree with removing wiki text. Several thousand bots depend on it. Especially Cluebot NG which is a highly sophisticated anti-vandalism bot. I rcommend going our current route where the visual editor writes the Wikimarkup realtime and vice versa.
Gesendet von Maximilian's iPhone. (Sent from Maximilian's iPhone.)
Am Mar 26, 2012 um 11:37 schrieb Trevor Parscal tparscal@wikimedia.org:
Given we have pages that contain CSS, JS and JSON in the MediaWiki namespace, this seems more like a good idea for a nice refactoring project than a new idea altogether. Is the way we support these non-wikitext pages indeed a dirty hack atm?
- Trevor
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Sumana Harihareswara sumanah@wikimedia.org wrote: Forwarding this to the wikitext-l list just in case.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Wikitech-l] Cutting MediaWiki loose from wikitext Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:45:51 +0200 From: Daniel Kinzler daniel@brightbyte.de Reply-To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Organization: Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org, mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: Lydia Pintscher lydia@pintscher.de, Abraham Taherivand abraham.taherivand@wikimedia.de
Hi all. I have a bold proposal (read: evil plan).
To put it briefly: I want to remove the assumption that MediaWiki pages contain always wikitext. Instead, I propose a pluggable handler system for different types of content, similar to what we have for file uploads. So, I propose to associate a "content model" identifier with each page, and have handlers for each model that provide serialization, rendering, an editor, etc.
The background is that the Wikidata project needs a way to store structured data (JSON) on wiki pages instead of wikitext. Having a pluggable system would solve that problem along with several others, like doing away with the special cases for JS/CSS, the ability to maintain categories etc separate from body text, manage Gadgets sanely on a wiki page, or several other things (see the link below).
I have described my plans in more detail on meta:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/ContentHandler
A very rough prototype is in a dev branch here:
http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/Wikidata/phase3/
Please let me know what you think (here on the list, preferably, not on the talk page there, at least for now).
Note that we *definitely* need this ability for Wikidata. We could do it differently, but I think this would be the cleanest solution, and would have a lot of mid- and long term benefits, even if it's a short term pain. I'm presenting my plan here to find out if I'm on the right track, and whether it is feasible to put this on the road map for 1.20. It would be my (and the Wikidata team's) priority to implement this and see it through before Wikimania. I'm convinced we have the manpower to get it done.
Cheers, Daniel
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Wikitext-l mailing list Wikitext-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitext-l
Wikitext-l mailing list Wikitext-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitext-l