On 12 February 2012 18:55, Oliver Keyes okeyes@wikimedia.org wrote:
If your solution to "we need to avoid an overcomplicated interface mostly used by people with a primacy in tech" is to develop an extension that requires potential editors to have a specific piece of software people mostly don't use or install it, you are making a very good argument for why we should work on the research the usability initiative did with actual new editors, and not the ideas of anyone attempting to put themselves into the shoes of new editors. We're not new editors. We can't impersonate them - not adequately, and not for the purpose of somehow divining what it is they want. And we should stop pretending that we can.
By the way, I covered most of this thread about a year ago:
http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2011/01/04/what-you-see-is-for-the-win/
(This was posted just before the big WMF push for a visual editor.)
- d.