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Denny Vrandečić

17 May 2020 17 May '20

5:12 p.m.

Hi, not sure if this is a better place, or https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/Wiki:Village_Pump Thanks koavf for setting up the namespace. So I checked Wikispore out a bit more, and I think the following three things would be requirements for moving forward: 1. Make the usual WMF wiki shortcuts work, i.e. meta for metawikimedia, en for enwiki, d for wikidata, etc. 2. Install the translate extension 3. Enable Instacommons With those three, it should be comparably simple to copy the content from the spore to the blossomed project later. What do you think? Stay safe, Denny

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Tisza Gergő

18 May 18 May

5:22 p.m.

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:13 AM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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not sure if this is a better place, or https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/Wiki:Village_Pump

Phabricator might be best but this mailing list works fine too. Wiki pages probably not so much as notification emails are broken ATM. 1. Make the usual WMF wiki shortcuts work, i.e. meta for metawikimedia, en

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for enwiki, d for wikidata, etc.

Do you have an exact list? The Wikimedia interwiki map has 400+ elements, I'd rather not pull it in blindly.

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2. Install the translate extension

I have set it up on https://wikispore-test.wmflabs.org/ . I don't know much about Translate and there are plenty of configuration options so please check how well the default settings work for the use cases you envision.

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3. Enable Instacommons

It should be enabled already.

Denny Vrandečić

6:17 p.m.

+Amir Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> Roping Amir in, maybe he would know about the Translate extension. It looks like it is doing something already, but doesn't work right just yet. Amir, could you give some guidance? Basically, I would need a setup like on Meta or Wikidata - the goal, after all, is to eventually just copy the content over from Spore to Wikilambda once it launches. Regarding instacommons: Thanks! I could have promised I tried it yesterday and didn't work. Probably mistyped the filename :D Thank you! Regarding the shortcuts: At least: meta, m, d, commons, wmf, mw, mediawiki; and then en, de, and preferably all the language codes for the language Wikipedias Thank you Gergo for the fast response! On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:22 PM Tisza Gergő <gtisza(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:13 AM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

not sure if this is a better place, or https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/Wiki:Village_Pump

for enwiki, d for wikidata, etc.

Do you have an exact list? The Wikimedia interwiki map has 400+ elements, I'd rather not pull it in blindly.

2. Install the translate extension

3. Enable Instacommons

It should be enabled already. _______________________________________________ Wikispore mailing list Wikispore(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikispore

Pharos

6:27 p.m.

Just to be sure, Denny, have you tried it at the separate test wiki - https://wikispore-test.wmflabs.org/ Gergo has been installing extensions there first to see if they work with the setup, and then moving them over to the "production" Wikispore. Thanks, Richard (User: Pharos) On Mon, May 18, 2020, 9:17 PM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:13 AM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

not sure if this is a better place, or https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/Wiki:Village_Pump

en for enwiki, d for wikidata, etc.

Do you have an exact list? The Wikimedia interwiki map has 400+ elements, I'd rather not pull it in blindly.

2. Install the translate extension

3. Enable Instacommons

It should be enabled already. _______________________________________________ Wikispore mailing list Wikispore(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikispore

_______________________________________________ Wikispore mailing list Wikispore(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikispore

Denny Vrandečić

19 May 19 May

1:24 p.m.

Yes, I did. https://wikispore-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Wikilambda https://wikispore-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Wikilambda/de Maybe it is all already set up and I just need the rights to mark pages for translation? Could be. Can someone give me the translate rights? (If I understand correctly, that's admin rights on the test wiki, based on https://wikispore-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights ) Cheers, Denny On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 6:31 PM Pharos <pharosofalexandria(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:13 AM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

not sure if this is a better place, or https://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/Wiki:Village_Pump

en for enwiki, d for wikidata, etc.

Do you have an exact list? The Wikimedia interwiki map has 400+ elements, I'd rather not pull it in blindly.

2. Install the translate extension

3. Enable Instacommons

It should be enabled already. _______________________________________________ Wikispore mailing list Wikispore(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikispore

_______________________________________________ Wikispore mailing list Wikispore(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikispore

Tisza Gergő

20 May 20 May

1:14 a.m.

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:24 PM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Maybe it is all already set up and I just need the rights to mark pages for translation? Could be. Can someone give me the translate rights? (If I understand correctly, that's admin rights on the test wiki, based on https://wikispore-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights )

Done. And yeah, at least on Wikimedia multilingual wikis, a translation admin needs to mark the page for translation for anything interesting to happen.

Tisza Gergő

25 May 25 May

2:31 a.m.

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 3:17 AM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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It looks like it is doing something already, but doesn't work right just yet. Amir, could you give some guidance? Basically, I would need a setup like on Meta or Wikidata - the goal, after all, is to eventually just copy the content over from Spore to Wikilambda once it launches.

Seems to be working now so enabled on the "production" wiki. At least: meta, m, d, commons, wmf, mw, mediawiki; and then en, de, and

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preferably all the language codes for the language Wikipedias

commons and mw are default interwikis for all MediaWiki wikis. Added meta/m, d, wmf, mediawiki (I wonder if that should be default too - instead we have mediawikiwiki, which is not super intuitive), w for Wikipedia. Language editions can be accessed via "fake" redirects like w:de:, similar to how it works on Wikimedia wikis other than Wikipedias.

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