from
the footer. We are probably covered by it anyway (Wikimedia Cloud being a
technical space), it's certainly better than not having any code of
conduct, and there is an ongoing process for a Universal Code of Conduct
for the movement - once that comes into existence, it would make very
little sense for us to pick a different code of conduct. So I suggest that
people interested in debating what should and shouldn't be in the code of
conduct should focus their energies on that discussion - currently it is
happening at
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct
in my view is the lowest common denominator
not enough and certainly not optimum
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 11:44 AM Alastair Dickson <adickson(a)allyd.co.uk>
wrote:
Interesting. Apologies for probably going over old ground as a
latecomer, but I had assumed that Wikispore was sufficiently proximate
to Mediawiki that the [
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct]
would have to apply?
In an exceptional situation, if someone complained to the Foundation
about something that had happened in the Wikispore space, wouldn't they
see it in their remit to take action? If that is so, shouldn't at least
the "Unacceptable behaviour" provisions of the Mediawiki Code be
explicitly bound in? (Though also taking Denny's point about the
positives of that Berlin Code.)
On 16/07/2020 07:16, Željko Blaće wrote:
> Maybe we can bring some of the unfinished discussions like CoC to this
Sunday?
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:19 AM Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> +1 to the berlin COC.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 5:14 AM Željko Blaće <zblace(a)mi2.hr> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 4:15 AM Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have checked with a few people, and here are some concerns
regarding Wikispore, which, I am sure, can be easily resolved. I am happy
to help with the first three if I sense consensus on these topics.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Privacy policy
>>>> 2) Terms of use
>>>> 3) Code of Conduct
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you Denny for bringing this up! Much appreciated and important
now.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am sure we'll easily agree on the first two, just taking the
respective policies from the other WMF Wikis and link them accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding 3),
mediawiki.org has a CoC, meta does not, and I would
really like us to start Spores per default with a CoC. What are your
thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> Though I think being explicit about #Unacceptable_behavior
>>>
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct#Unacceptable_behavior
>>> I find it super-important to have consensus also on
#3-expected-behavior !
>>> My preferences here are with
https://BerlinCodeOfConduct.org/
>>> that originated from
https://pdxruby.org/CONDUCT#3-expected-behavior
>>>
>>> Personally I find most of the older projects often unsupportive
>>> and even made toxic for newbies to join due to 'legal' bot-like
behavior
>>> or passive agressive of older
(highly patronizing and teritorial)
admins...
>>> ...as the project matures this
should be monitored for and
suppressed,
>>> but ideally also discouraged from
the start by Expected_Behavior
policy.
>>
>> Best Z
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