Sounds like a great Page/Data/Media interplay, of interest to Wikispore if
there's any need for customization. SJ
On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 2:37 PM Adam Sobieski <adamsobieski(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:
> A “Wikifacts” sister project is a great idea. “Wikifacts” seems distinct
> from both Wikinews and Wikidata. With some schemas for facts, defining
> their structure and interrelations, one could, however, utilize Wikidata as
> a backend.
>
>
>
> Brainstorming, while I’m sure that those in these mailing lists are more
> familiar with what’s possible with wiki templates, with a “Wikifacts”
> sister project, one could envision a wiki template for explicit facts.
> Perhaps such a wiki template could resemble:
>
>
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> {{fact|User content goes here.}}
>
>
>
> or
>
>
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> {{fact|F12345678|User content goes here.}}
>
>
>
> With such a wiki template, editors could add explicit facts to Wikinews
> and Wikipedia articles.
>
>
>
> End-users could hover over explicit facts in Wikinews or Wikipedia
> articles to view information (e.g. the number of informational messages,
> warnings, or errors) about the facts in tooltips and could click on a fact
> – or on a superscript hyperlink symbol – to navigate to the fact’s
> “Wikifacts” article.
>
>
>
> The use of explicit facts in Wikinews or Wikipedia articles could,
> potentially, create new “Wikifacts” articles or synchronize with existing
> “Wikifacts” articles. Whenever a fact were updated or annotated via the
> “Wikifacts” project website, the editors of any dependent Wikinews or
> Wikipedia articles could receive emails, resembling how they can opt to
> watch articles for edits. Wikinews and Wikipedia editors could receive
> emails so as to be able to revisit an article if or when any facts upon
> which the article depends change.
>
>
>
> A “Wikifacts” project could also serve as a fact-checking resource for a
> set of end-users broader than the editors of Wikinews and Wikipedia
> articles. Through an API, end-users could perform real-time fact checking
> via “Wikifacts” while authoring or reviewing documents.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> P.S.: Thank you for the information about the Wikipragmatica proposal.
>
>
>
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>
> *From: *Douglas Clark <clarkdd(a)gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Thursday, February 4, 2021 6:50 PM
> *To: *Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [Wikimedia-l] Idea of a new project: Wikifacts ?
>
>
>
> I proposed a project, WikiPragmatica
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipragmatica>, that can support fake
> news detection. The retained context of the paraphrase graph can identify
> fake news patterns similar to what MIT does with their detector.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:42 PM Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga <
> galder158(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Does Wikinews cover this aspect?
>
> *From:* Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf
> of Chris Gates via Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 4, 2021 8:20 PM
> *To:* Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> *Cc:* Chris Gates <vermont(a)vtwp.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimedia-l] Idea of a new project: Wikifacts ?
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Independent of my opinions on the validity of such a new Wikimedia
> project, there is currently an experiment of similar goals (and potentially
> structure) over at Twitter:
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>
>
>
> https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-birdwatch-a-…
>
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>
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> Best,
>
> Verm
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:17 PM Leinonen Teemu <teemu.leinonen(a)aalto.fi>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Has there been any discussion to start a new Wikimedia project focusing on
> fact checking?
>
> Fact checking of course is in the core of editing Wikipedia, but I was
> thinking about dedicated wiki-site that is dedicated for fact checking of
> current events and news. Why this would be important?
>
> (1) There are many fact checking site in the English speaking world but
> much less elsewhere. I am afraid that there is still greater need for fact
> checking in the rest of the world. {{Citation needed}}
>
> (2) Our community is very well educated to do fact checking the wiki-way.
> Again internationally, many of our community members are real fact
> champions in their home countries and language groups. The practice of
> Wikipedia could be applied to fact checking of fast moving current events
> and news, too.
>
> (3) This could help us to get new young people to the movement, as editing
> Wikipedias is not anymore so easy to start (because they are so good
> already).
>
> (4) In many parts of the world, fact checking can also be dangerous. With
> our anonymous and community driven practices and services we could protect
> the fact checkers in many parts of the world.
>
> I am not sure what is the state of the Wikinews, but my impression is that
> it is not really working. It was a good idea, but maybe wiki or wiki-way is
> not the way to produce news. Also the beautiful idea of citizen journalism
> has not really become reality. Maybe we could try if wiki and the wki-way
> works better in fact checking.
>
> Peace,
>
> - Teemu
>
>
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Dear All -
As some of you know I am co-developing Civil Society Spore and now
wanna push it locally in Croatia with a pilot experimental project
Civil Society wiki mapping arches and ideally use Wikidata ad
Wikispore.
I feel it is urgent with the situation in Croatian Wikipedia even if
it gets cleaned from most
toxic admins (again on Meta frontpage 14 November:RfC: Global ban for
Kubura), we need to counterbalance a decade of suppression.
We will try to get sociologist and pioneering peace activist Vesna
Jankovic (fast learning Wiki enthusiast) to become WiR in a very
prominent NGO in the region www.Documenta.hr *(that uses MediaWiki
software internally!). We work a bit against the odds as there is no
local affiliate, so we can only apply for RapidGrants + she has no
Wikimedian reputation, but we submit it as a team of 4 people. I would
love to hear your inputs in the plans.
If you like it feel free to endorse - please do so in next days
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Piyacitta21/WikiMappin…
Best Z
I would like to invite everyone to join the new Wikispore channel on
Wikimedia Chat, which is a Slack-like platform we can use for informal text
conversations and brainstorming in-between meetings:
https://chat.wmcloud.org/wikimedia/channels/wikispore
Started some discussion on STARDIT there now.
Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)
I have checked with a few people, and here are some concerns regarding
Wikispore, which, I am sure, can be easily resolved. I am happy to help
with the first three if I sense consensus on these topics.
1) Privacy policy
2) Terms of use
3) Code of Conduct
I am sure we'll easily agree on the first two, just taking the respective
policies from the other WMF Wikis and link them accordingly.
Regarding 3), mediawiki.org has a CoC, meta does not, and I would really
like us to start Spores per default with a CoC. What are your thoughts?
4) Visual Editor?
Would it be easy to set that up? My guess is that Spores are for novel user
groups, and VE seems to be something useful. But I also think to remember
that setting up VE used to be sometimes a bit complex.
Stay safe,
Denny
I invite you to join us on Sunday August 23, at 1PM New York, 5PM UTC, 7PM
Berlin.
This call, we'll look at Visual Editor and Citoid (now enabled on main
Wikispore!), options for hosting WikiJournal and similar projects, and the
submission process to the WMF board.
We'll also follow-up on points from Wikispore Day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q75Fv7Snc_whttps://wikispore.wmflabs.org/wiki/Wikispore_Day
Note that this meeting is 1pm New York time, not 3pm New York time as most
previous meetings have been.
Here is our video meeting room:
https://meet.wmcloud.org/wikispore
Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)