On 10/03/07, Joerg Baach <lists(a)baach.de> wrote: I would think that we should store all flags (for blame purposes, if nothing else ;-)), but we should use the most recent state of each flag for each revision - if A sets flag X true (or whatever), but ignores flag Y, and then B sets flag Y true and flag X false, we should show "X false, Y true, Z unset" (probably skipping unset flags)... Individual authors' actions are equal ("idempotent", as it were) - this isn't meant as a voting system, nor AIUI is it meant to have a concept of one users' flag outranking another's based on the /user/ (so that one flagger being a sysop and the other not should have no effect on the weight given by the code to their actions) - this seems to be the way that we've developed the idea of wikis for MW and Wikimedia's wikis especially. Thoughts? Yrs, -- James D. Forrester jdforrester(a)wikimedia.org | james(a)jdforrester.org | jdforrester(a)gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]]

On Saturday 10 March 2007 15:22:28 Joerg Baach wrote: I agree with P. Birken. It is not useful having a feature for unsetting a flag. If there is a problem with the currently flagged version (for example vandalism, or the half done article example with an accidential flag) then a newer version has to be created and/or flagged. Someone who complains about a specific version has some specific critics on content. If it is really such a problem for him he should solve the problem himself. Everthing else would quickly cause lame vote wars (you know voting is attractive because you're not forced to think nor need to write anything ;-). Furthermore I am against multiple flags of the same kind for one version (and even making an average out of it). This renders flagging into voting. This is something we strictly have to avoid. Voting or voting like procedures instead of flagging render creation of sock puppets much more attractive. Something we definitely have to avoid. Beside that the history page would look much more complicated and crowed with information if it is possible to change flags afterwards. That said I am not against flagging an article as "sighted" and "checked" as these are two different things (so for example a version could have the "minor", "sighted" and "checked" flag). However it would be useless to allow people flagging an already "checked" version as "sighted". Cheers, Arnomane / Daniel Arnold