Hi.

I've started a discussion at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Babel#Organizing_discussion_spaces_on_m... about organizing Meta's discussion spaces better.

A copy of the proposal is pasted below to get more eyeballs on (and voices in) the discussion, but in order to keep the discussion centralized, please add your comments on the wiki rather than on the list.

Depending on how this goes, I may even try to revive the MetaProject to Overhaul Meta once again :)

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Hi. I've been working on organizing / cleaning up a few areas here on meta, and I'd like to address the topic of discussion spaces.

There are currently several main discussion spaces split by topic:

Meta:Babel (this page): a place to discuss general stuff related to meta-wiki Wikimedia Forum: a place to discuss general Wikimedia stuff Meta talk:Babylon: a place to discuss translation stuff Help Forum: a place to get general help Tech: a place to get technical help

Despite editing meta-wiki for years, I still find this quite confusing, in no small part due to the various names: I usually mix "Babel" and "Babylon", and I never remember if meta-specific issues should go to "Babel" or to the "Forum".

I'd like to start a discussion to see if we can find consensus to organize those pages better.

One solution would be to use a system similar to what exists on a few Wikimedia wikis, with subpages for specific areas. For example, this could look like:

Forum (Wikimedia Forum) Forum/Meta (Meta:Babel) Forum/Translation (Meta talk:Babylon) Forum/Help (Help Forum) Forum/Tech (Tech)

I've chosen "Forum" as the parent page because it's a Latin word and therefore more language-neutral than idioms like "Village Pump", but obviously this is up for discussion. We can also discuss whether it should be in the Meta: namespace. We can also discuss completely different solutions, but I do want us to try and come up with a system that is more sane than the current situation.

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