Hi all,
The electrol team mentioned that they'd review bios of the nominees and determine if they qualify to run as per our discussions here: [1], but I don't think this has been done. I know this might seem as a dumper but it would be sad if we created a precedence for this to happen in the future as well.
I've only brought this up because it is something we agreed on as a team and not as a means to disqualify some nominees. To the electrol team, Kindly review this concern and post some feedback.
My advice, implement this [1] or review it not for individual but for the betterment of WMKE. In short, we need to know the grounds under which people qualify for candidacy.
[1]. http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wikimedia-kenya-meet-up
regards, Alex
Forward thinking i like this.
Okwero Oscar
--- On Fri, 3/30/12, Alex Wafula xelawafs@gmail.com wrote:
From: Alex Wafula xelawafs@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Nominees Running for the Board - Presidence To: "Wikimediake Mailing List" wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Friday, March 30, 2012, 1:26 PM
Hi all,
The electrol team mentioned that they'd review bios of the nominees and determine if they qualify to run as per our discussions here: [1], but I don't think this has been done. I know this might seem as a dumper but it would be sad if we created a precedence for this to happen in the future as well.
I've only brought this up because it is something we agreed on as a team and not as a means to disqualify some nominees. To the electrol team, Kindly review this concern and post some feedback.
My advice, implement this [1] or review it not for individual but for the betterment of WMKE. In short, we need to know the grounds under which people qualify for candidacy.
[1]. http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wikimedia-kenya-meet-up
regards, Alex
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Hi all,
Thanks for that reminder, Alex.
Let me start by saying that we are a scrappy start-up with all the experimentation and chaos that implies. We aren't a smoothly-sailing ship: we're building our ship. That means that roles and responsibilities aren't always clear, systems and procedures haven't been tested and refined over time. This is quite normal for young organizations.
I do not think that what you just said will set a binding precedence since the criteria for the eligibility of running for the board is not in the bylaws. Whatever we do now is non-binding. Therefore, one can't come to us 5 years on, and force us to use the same procedure that we are using today.
I purposely left out such nitty-gritty elements out of the bylaws since I know that with time, they are bound to change. That with each election year, we will have gotten smarter about what kinds of people flourish as Board Members and why. I therefore expect that with time, maturity, and once we get bigger, Wikimedia Kenya will strive for continual improvement and be able to refine its bylaws and have some binding voting criteria.
I am therefore willing to risk being lax this time round.
Abbas.
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:51:54 -0700 From: oscar_okwero@yahoo.com To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Nominees Running for the Board - Presidence
Forward thinking i like this.
Okwero Oscar
--- On Fri, 3/30/12, Alex Wafula xelawafs@gmail.com wrote:
From: Alex Wafula xelawafs@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Nominees Running for the Board - Presidence To: "Wikimediake Mailing List" wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Friday, March 30, 2012, 1:26 PM
Hi all,
The electrol team mentioned that they'd review bios of the nominees and determine if they qualify to run as per our discussions here: [1], but I don't think this has been done. I know this might seem as a dumper but it would be sad if we created a precedence for this to happen in the future as well.
I've only brought this up because it is something we agreed on as a team and not as a means to disqualify some nominees. To the electrol team, Kindly review this concern and post some feedback.
My advice, implement this [1] or review it not for individual but for the betterment of WMKE. In short, we need to know the grounds under which people qualify for candidacy.
[1]. http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wikimedia-kenya-meet-up
regards, Alex
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@ Alex & the rest of us who have expressed the same sentiments offline,i do agree with you that we were to review the bios & state who is qualified , i want to be bold enough and say this ,,had we to followed the so called the PSC deliberations ,only two or utmost 3 candidates would have been cleared for elections ,the by laws does not expressly state the way forward ,we wanted to be guided by the spirit & letter of our by laws,to have 3 candidates be elected for 5 positions is itself an constitutional crisis,Let us ask ourselves the hard question>>>> to what extend is the PSC deliberations binding ...thats a subject of debate & don't want to debate,Our understanding is that we are not slaves to those deliberations after all the laws are meant for us to fix problems not the other way round ,i want to believe that by doing what we did we din't overstep our mandate ,i also wan't to echo Abbas sentiments that in future when we have established the system structures ,things should be done differently & moreso it should be entrenched in our by laws. " The sentiments expressed here does not in way reflect the position of the electoral team''
Branton.
On 3/30/12, Abbas Mahmood abbasjnr@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
Thanks for that reminder, Alex.
Let me start by saying that we are a scrappy start-up with all the experimentation and chaos that implies. We aren't a smoothly-sailing ship: we're building our ship. That means that roles and responsibilities aren't always clear, systems and procedures haven't been tested and refined over time. This is quite normal for young organizations.
I do not think that what you just said will set a binding precedence since the criteria for the eligibility of running for the board is not in the bylaws. Whatever we do now is non-binding. Therefore, one can't come to us 5 years on, and force us to use the same procedure that we are using today.
I purposely left out such nitty-gritty elements out of the bylaws since I know that with time, they are bound to change. That with each election year, we will have gotten smarter about what kinds of people flourish as Board Members and why. I therefore expect that with time, maturity, and once we get bigger, Wikimedia Kenya will strive for continual improvement and be able to refine its bylaws and have some binding voting criteria.
I am therefore willing to risk being lax this time round.
Abbas.
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 06:51:54 -0700 From: oscar_okwero@yahoo.com To: wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Nominees Running for the Board - Presidence
Forward thinking i like this.
Okwero Oscar
--- On Fri, 3/30/12, Alex Wafula xelawafs@gmail.com wrote:
From: Alex Wafula xelawafs@gmail.com Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Nominees Running for the Board - Presidence To: "Wikimediake Mailing List" wikimediake@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Friday, March 30, 2012, 1:26 PM
Hi all,
The electrol team mentioned that they'd review bios of the nominees and determine if they qualify to run as per our discussions here: [1], but I don't think this has been done. I know this might seem as a dumper but it would be sad if we created a precedence for this to happen in the future as well.
I've only brought this up because it is something we agreed on as a team and not as a means to disqualify some nominees. To the electrol team, Kindly review this concern and post some feedback.
My advice, implement this [1] or review it not for individual but for the betterment of WMKE. In short, we need to know the grounds under which people qualify for candidacy.
[1]. http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/wikimedia-kenya-meet-up
regards, Alex
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