Oscar , Thanks for addressing this matter that is threatening the future of WMKE , by your own admission things are not looking good, i even din't know Grace has left the group ,For our info Grace & Abbas were just NOT ordinary members but founder members who contributed immensely to its project & were in charge of various ongoing projects within WMKE ,we don't want to see an exodus of members ,do we ? Its wrong for anyone to try imagine that this matter can be swept under the floor ,When you guys assumed office we thought there will be a deliberate effort to speed up incorporation of WMKE , Questions ,Whats holding us/you from creating a joint account for WMKE as most of us are in support of the same ? ,What is the status of the incorporation ,We rooting for incorporation because other than defining roles ,We all know there are projects that involved WMKE relating with government & non governmental organizations which cannot be possible if we are not a legal group. I don't know the procedures of calling for a meeting ,but i once again want to appeal to our chair to come up with a date ,soon is a proper word ,to address this issues ,we still believe in the board members ,but you should not continue behaving like its business as usual while people are opting out , Bruce, A volunteer WMKE.
On 8/27/12, Limoke Oscar oslimoke@gmail.com wrote:
Bruce,
Thank you for your kind request. Indeed it is unfortunate that Abbas had to leave the Chapter and this is just sign of the kind of murky waters you refer too. The Audit Committee does not exist yet after 2 of its members, Abbas and Grace (told) quit the Chapter. So we have to again call for volunteers.
It is rather unfortunate that we as WMKE members dont like to be Critiqued, we prefer having issues sugar coated and personally I dont do that.The main reason why we got ourselves in this state in the first place is the failure of the Board( of which I am part of) and all WMKE members to do joint accountability and raise questions and demand answers. That said, I have deliberately avoided chiming in on this thread for the said reasons and I do hope that the persons and issues that have led us to this state have/or get resolved.
David, As the Board Chair, can you convene a meeting to the same?
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Branton Obwari bruceobwari@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks Asaf , for bringing this up , Was not privileged to attend the Saturday meeting but persuaded to believe it dint achieve much .There has been considerable noise on the matter of accountability of WMKE funds ,which is very healthy and can not be wished away . Permit me to use this forum to address the Board members whom members entrusted responsibility , there is work cut out for you ,We need you to steer us through this murky waters. your priority should be; 1.Set up a dedicated joint account for WMKE funds ASAP 2.Finalize the incorporation thing ,its unfortunate that Abbas who was taking care of this & has since left ,who i must applaud for his immense contribution . And finally someone please update me on the status of the audit committee ,is in place ? if this is not done pretty soon we shall be asking ourselves ,...When did the rain start hitting us ?
my concerns ,with love! bruce.On 8/25/12, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear WMKE colleagues,
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
Indeed, David's suggestion is good.
Also, just to address Isaac's comment: _certainly_ Steve and all other office holders are primarily answerable to the board, and to the
members.
WMF is a side entity here, and the only reason I have requested and received the tracking sheet is that I was told the Saturday meeting "exploded" without actually finishing the review.
I do hope WMKE can resolve this on its own, and am confident it can.
It's been two weeks, and I have not heard anything further. Has this
been
resolved yet? Is there progress with setting up a dedicated joint
account,
for the interim until WMKE is fully incorporated?
Thanks,
Asaf
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