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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Visiting Kenya after Wikimania 2011
by Alex Wafula 22 Jul '11

22 Jul '11

Yah, I thought about that too. Infact, I had a brief chat with Isaac regarding it earlier today. I was under the impression that Egerton's a bit far. Remember the last time we did a talk there, it took us the entire day. Though I must say, I love Egerton's enthusiasim towards open source stuff and it would be great to lay a foundation for future Wikimedia activities in Nakuru. If guys plus Asaf ofcourse are willing to go here it would be awesome. So what about it guys? On Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 8:43 AM PDT stephen wanjau wrote: >Hello guys, > >Incase time and resources allow,There is a contact at Egerton University, ( >Alex, remember the guys who organized the Mozilla talk?).I had a chat with >their Computer Students club chairman and he was willing we give them a talk >regarding Wikimedia. > >Infact he told me the talk can be conducted at the town campus in Nakuru >town. If that's ok please let me know so that I can furnish him with the >relevant material (letters,posters e.t.c.) and more information. > >Cheers >Stephen W. Wanjau > >On Jul 22, 2011 6:02 PM, "Alex Wafula" <xelawafs(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Hey Abbas, >> >> I've already got intouch with someone from UoN and I'm waiting for an >official confirmation from them. >> >> I've also forwarded the letter from Wikimedia to help things move on >faster. >> >> Cheers, >> Alex. >> >> On Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 7:36 AM PDT Abbas Mahmood wrote: >> >>> >>>Thanks Oscar for notifying us. >>>Does anyone have contacts at USIU? We could approach them as well. >>>Also, Alex, have you contacted UoN? I have a contact there that might be >able to contact UoN's Dean. >>>BTW, I have an official introduction letter from Wikimedia, so in case any >one of you needs it to approach various institutions, please do contact me >and i will forward the letter to you beforehand. >>>Abbas. >>> >>>> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:47:26 +0300 >>>> From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com >>>> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Visiting Kenya after Wikimania 2011 >>>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> I have just requested the Director of e-learning JKUAT to allow us a >>>> visit when Asaf is around.However we are starting our exams around 5th >>>> August and it may be tricky to have audience with students. >>>> I would be finishing my exams on 15th and so I hope to join all of you >>>> guys thereafter.So if you see me quite,I am buried in my books"-) >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> On 7/19/11, Limoke Oscar <oslimoke(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > Asaf, >>>> >> The iHub sounds great, and a post-1800 time for public speaking is >not a >>>> >> problem for me! Can WMKE set it up? If there's a fee to use the iHub, >>>> >> the >>>> >> Foundation will pay it. >>>> > The problem is not with the you,most WMKE may not do a post-1800 >>>> > meeting.The travel logistics in Nairobi may not allow most of us to >>>> > attend the meeting.I suggest we do a daytime meeting at some other >>>> > venue?The August memorial Park in the City Center?However they charge >>>> > a small fee.The iHub facility is free of charge for scheduled meetings >>>> > subject to availability and booking. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> This sounds good to me. I have already contacted the Google Nairobi >>>> >> office, >>>> >> and they would be happy for me to visit. I'd like some of you to join >>>> >> me. >>>> >> I know some of you have already had contact with the Google Nairobi >>>> >> office, >>>> >> so perhaps we can use this opportunity to introduce some other WMKE >>>> >> members >>>> >> to the Google team? I think 3 or 4 WMKE members would be great to >join >>>> >> me >>>> >> in that meeting. Securing Google as a sponsor for WTN would >definitely >>>> >> be >>>> >> one goal of that meeting. What else do you think we could ask from >>>> >> Google? >>>> >> They wanted "numbers and figures", not your NGO registration papers; >>>> >> this >>>> >> means that if we can come up with concrete plans (with a budget, a >>>> >> realistic >>>> >> timeline, and a list of people committed to doing the work), we can >move >>>> >> forward with securing support from Google (as well as the >Foundation). >>>> > >>>> > Great.I contacted them and am still awaiting their response.Glad you >>>> > caught their attention.I would be happy to join you. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> We also visited KU (www.ku.ac.ke) with Ting and we had a greta and >>>> >>> fruitful discussions with the Top Management of the Universities >about >>>> >>> future areas of collaboration in advancing our aims.We were supposed >>>> >>> to get back to them and deliver an Outreach sort of talk to there >>>> >>> students about Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects >>>> > >>>> >> Excellent! Perhaps we can deliver a double talk as I proposed >elsewhere >>>> >> -- >>>> >> a general "introduction to Wikipedia" delivered by a WMKE member, and >a >>>> >> talk >>>> >> on Wikimedia as a global movement (or on the Foundation and its >strategy >>>> >> and >>>> >> plans?) by me. Is one of you willing to make this happen? >>>> > Our Contact at KU(Dr.Martin Njoroge) earlier on told me that our vsist >>>> > may not be possible as they KU Students will be away then.He wished it >>>> > were in September.I saw your request to the Director of e-learning in >>>> > a different thread and I hope we will be able to have a chat with him. >>>> > I would be finding the contacts of the Director of e-learning of JKUAT >>>> > and I hope you would not mind sedning a similar email to him. >>>> > >>>> > Regards, >>>> > Limoke O. >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Limoke Oscar, >>>> mayenge.blogspot.com >>>> Freelancer, >>>> GeoInformatics and GIScience Student >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WikimediaKE mailing list >>>> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Visiting Kenya after Wikimania 2011
by Alex Wafula 22 Jul '11

22 Jul '11

Hey Abbas, I've already got intouch with someone from UoN and I'm waiting for an official confirmation from them. I've also forwarded the letter from Wikimedia to help things move on faster. Cheers, Alex. On Fri Jul 22nd, 2011 7:36 AM PDT Abbas Mahmood wrote: > >Thanks Oscar for notifying us. >Does anyone have contacts at USIU? We could approach them as well. >Also, Alex, have you contacted UoN? I have a contact there that might be able to contact UoN's Dean. >BTW, I have an official introduction letter from Wikimedia, so in case any one of you needs it to approach various institutions, please do contact me and i will forward the letter to you beforehand. >Abbas. > >> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:47:26 +0300 >> From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com >> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Visiting Kenya after Wikimania 2011 >> >> Hi Guys, >> I have just requested the Director of e-learning JKUAT to allow us a >> visit when Asaf is around.However we are starting our exams around 5th >> August and it may be tricky to have audience with students. >> I would be finishing my exams on 15th and so I hope to join all of you >> guys thereafter.So if you see me quite,I am buried in my books"-) >> Regards, >> >> On 7/19/11, Limoke Oscar <oslimoke(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Asaf, >> >> The iHub sounds great, and a post-1800 time for public speaking is not a >> >> problem for me! Can WMKE set it up? If there's a fee to use the iHub, >> >> the >> >> Foundation will pay it. >> > The problem is not with the you,most WMKE may not do a post-1800 >> > meeting.The travel logistics in Nairobi may not allow most of us to >> > attend the meeting.I suggest we do a daytime meeting at some other >> > venue?The August memorial Park in the City Center?However they charge >> > a small fee.The iHub facility is free of charge for scheduled meetings >> > subject to availability and booking. >> > >> > >> > >> >> This sounds good to me. I have already contacted the Google Nairobi >> >> office, >> >> and they would be happy for me to visit. I'd like some of you to join >> >> me. >> >> I know some of you have already had contact with the Google Nairobi >> >> office, >> >> so perhaps we can use this opportunity to introduce some other WMKE >> >> members >> >> to the Google team? I think 3 or 4 WMKE members would be great to join >> >> me >> >> in that meeting. Securing Google as a sponsor for WTN would definitely >> >> be >> >> one goal of that meeting. What else do you think we could ask from >> >> Google? >> >> They wanted "numbers and figures", not your NGO registration papers; >> >> this >> >> means that if we can come up with concrete plans (with a budget, a >> >> realistic >> >> timeline, and a list of people committed to doing the work), we can move >> >> forward with securing support from Google (as well as the Foundation). >> > >> > Great.I contacted them and am still awaiting their response.Glad you >> > caught their attention.I would be happy to join you. >> >> >> >> >> >>> We also visited KU (www.ku.ac.ke) with Ting and we had a greta and >> >>> fruitful discussions with the Top Management of the Universities about >> >>> future areas of collaboration in advancing our aims.We were supposed >> >>> to get back to them and deliver an Outreach sort of talk to there >> >>> students about Wikipedia and Wikimedia Projects >> > >> >> Excellent! Perhaps we can deliver a double talk as I proposed elsewhere >> >> -- >> >> a general "introduction to Wikipedia" delivered by a WMKE member, and a >> >> talk >> >> on Wikimedia as a global movement (or on the Foundation and its strategy >> >> and >> >> plans?) by me. Is one of you willing to make this happen? >> > Our Contact at KU(Dr.Martin Njoroge) earlier on told me that our vsist >> > may not be possible as they KU Students will be away then.He wished it >> > were in September.I saw your request to the Director of e-learning in >> > a different thread and I hope we will be able to have a chat with him. >> > I would be finding the contacts of the Director of e-learning of JKUAT >> > and I hope you would not mind sedning a similar email to him. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Limoke O. >> > >> >> >> -- >> Limoke Oscar, >> mayenge.blogspot.com >> Freelancer, >> GeoInformatics and GIScience Student >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Visiting Kenya after Wikimania 2011
by Alex Wafula 22 Jul '11

22 Jul '11

A planning wiki for this would be awesome. If it's cool with everyone we can kick start this during tomorrow's WikiSaturday. As for the other campuses, Strathmore and probably Nairobi uni should be available. Regards, Alex. On Fri Jun 24th, 2011 10:36 AM PDT Limoke Oscar wrote: >Hi Asaf, > >It would be great to have you around.I personally think your visit and >talks will go along way in revitalizing WMKE like Tings visit did. >About your schedule, >> >> ==Logistics== >> I will be arriving around Aug 14th or 15th, and leaving around Aug 19th or >> 20th. I will definitely be in Nairobi, and possibly also visit Mombasa. >> >> ==Meetup== >> I'd like to meet as many Wikimedia Kenya members (non-members also welcome!) >> as possible. If there's a lot of interest in Mombasa, I'll try to have a >> meetup and workshop there too. All we need for the meetup is a room large >> enough to contain all who would want to come, and reasonably quiet so we can >> hear ourselves talking. >I would suggest we visit one of the campuses in Nairobi and combine >this aspect with the outreach aspect.You/we will have the opportuinity >to recruit and spur interest in Campus.Since in JKUAT(my campus) wew >would probably be having our exams,I would suggest either >Strathmore,KU and Nairobi University. > > Wifi and a projector would be a plus,we as WMKE have 2projectors so >this solved..:-) > >> ==Workshop== > >> 1. Motivating Volunteers: how to attract, care for, feed, and keep >> volunteers; how to handle crises >I would personally vouch to have this talk to the entire WMKE members. > > > >> ==Public speaking== >> If there's any opportunity to have a small public outreach event, maybe on >> one (or more) campus(es), I'd be delighted to appear as guest speaker on >> behalf of the Foundation, and either give a general introduction to >> Wikipedia or (if one of you would like to give the Wikipedia intro) I might >> give a talk about Wikimedia as an international movement and share some of >> our inspiring work around the world. > >I think we did this with Tings visit with one of the campuses and it >would be great to have a follow-up with the same campus (KU) or do it >in another campus. >> >> If your group has the time and interest in beginning to organize such >> events, please let me know and we can begin planning at once. >Definitely we(I) am interested in such an event and given the >time-span and the schedule,I think we need to start planning and doing >all the logistics early enough.Sending invites to >campuses,meeting/inviting government and other companies,and general >publicity all need enough time. > >I thus urge my fellow volunteers to give there take/input on this and >we start preparations ASAP. > >Thanks once again. >Regards, > >Limoke Oscar, > >_______________________________________________ >WikimediaKE mailing list >WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 20
by cliff argwings 20 Jul '11

20 Jul '11

Abbass, Thanks again, it works perfectly well now! Cheers! On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:26 AM, <wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org>wrote: > Send WikimediaKE mailing list submissions to > wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimediake-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WikimediaKE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 18 (Abbas Mahmood) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:25:18 +0000 > From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 18 > To: Wikimedia Kenya <wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <BLU116-W1665785B886DD68B1EDE76CA4C0(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > I've changed your digest options. I'm opening the link and it's working > perfectly in my side. > Abbas. > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:22:02 +0300 > From: caargwings(a)gmail.com > To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 18 > > Thanks Abbas, > But then , the link you sent me leads to some blank page, and again, how do > I change my digest settings to 'off' as you suggested? > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:14 AM, <wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > Send WikimediaKE mailing list submissions to > > wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > wikimediake-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of WikimediaKE digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 16 (Abbas Mahmood) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:14:20 +0000 > > From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 16 > > To: Wikimedia Kenya <wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > Message-ID: <BLU116-W16746E36DF328E1BE7D98CA4C0(a)phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > Cliff, > > Here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Kenya/bylaws > > You might want to change your digest settings to off -- which is why you > have a problem keeping up to speed. > > Abbas. > > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:04:06 +0300 > > From: caargwings(a)gmail.com > > To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 16 > > > > Hey Abbas, > > Where can I read the bylaws of wikimedia kenya? I haven't had a look at > them. > > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:43 PM, < > wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > > Send WikimediaKE mailing list submissions to > > > > wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > > wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > > wikimediake-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > > than "Re: Contents of WikimediaKE digest..." > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > > > 1. Re: Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments (Abbas Mahmood) > > > > 2. Re: Khan Academy (deonte munene) > > > > 3. Re: Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments (wanjaustev(a)gmail.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:07:09 +0000 > > > > From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments > > > > To: Wikimedia Kenya <wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > > > Message-ID: <BLU116-W186519C1EB32B996BDAAFCCA4D0(a)phx.gbl> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > > > > > Erm, I think we forgot no.6: > > > > 6. If someone just doesn't pay fees, when will he/she no longer be a > member? Usually bylaws have a clause saying something along the lines "if > you didn't pay your dues for more than a year, and two reminders have been > sent the board may remove membership from you". > > > > > > > My opinion is that if you haven't paid the membership fees, you aren't > considered as a member so we wouldn't have to "remove membership" from you > in the first place. This, of course, doesn't mean that such a person is not > allowed to attend meetings, etc but what he can not do is vote. I also > suggest that members should also be given priority over non-members when it > comes to participating in projects. (e.g., it would be unfair to take a > non-member to Mombasa for the Wikipedia for Schools project when there was a > member who wanted to go.) > > > > > > > > > > > Abbas. > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:26:07 +0300 > > > > > From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com > > > > > To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments > > > > > > > > > > Abbas, > > > > > I agree with that.Lets adopt it. > > > > > Any more queries? > > > > > > > > > > On 7/16/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's what Stephen and I suggested: > > > > > > A minimum of one third of the members can call for a Special Resolution > > > > > > Meeting, with notice given to all members at least 7 days in advance. > > > > > > However, a majority of two thirds of the members' votes shall be > required to > > > > > > remove a director, or the whole Board. > > > > > > Abbas. > > > > > >> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:20:55 +0300 > > > > > >> From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com > > > > > >> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Abbas, > > > > > >> >> I suggest we say 10% of the members can call for a "Special > Meeting" > > > > > >> >> to express a vote of no confidence in the board.However such a vote > > > > > >> >> should only be considered valid if atleast 30% of the members > partake > > > > > >> >> in it and that the voting out of the board/resolution should be > > > > > >> >> supported by 50% +1 of the voting members(i.e the 30% present).... > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > May I try to interpret what you are saying in actual figures? > > > > > >> > 10% of ~20 members = 2 members.30% of ~20 members = 6 members51% of > the > > > > > >> > 6 > > > > > >> > members = 4 members > > > > > >> > So therefore in simpler terms, what you are saying is that at least > 2 > > > > > >> > members can call for a Special Resolution and the vote is only > > > > > >> > considered > > > > > >> > valid if at least 6 members partake in the voting and the voting out > of > > > > > >> > the > > > > > >> > board should be supported by at least 4 members? > > > > > >> > If this is what you are implying, I disagree with it. Once again, I > > > > > >> > borrow > > > > > >> > precedence from Wikimedia Deutschland's case (mentioned earlier > > > > > >> > upthread) > > > > > >> > where they require a majority to remove the Board. 6 out of 20 > members > > > > > >> > is > > > > > >> > not a majority. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Your interpretation is correct.And yes that's my thought and the % > > > > > >> were arbitrary.We could revise them upwards.Plus am considering the > > > > > >> fact that definitely not all members will be present nor would partake > > > > > >> in the elections.Maybe we revise the % upwards?? > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> Limoke Oscar, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > >> WikimediaKE mailing list > > > > > >> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Limoke Oscar, > > > > > mayenge.blogspot.com > > > > > Freelancer, > > > > > GeoInformatics and GIScience Student > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > WikimediaKE mailing list > > > > > WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > > > > > > >

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 18
by cliff argwings 20 Jul '11

20 Jul '11

Thanks Abbas, But then , the link you sent me leads to some blank page, and again, how do I change my digest settings to 'off' as you suggested? On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:14 AM, <wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org>wrote: > Send WikimediaKE mailing list submissions to > wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimediake-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WikimediaKE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 16 (Abbas Mahmood) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 05:14:20 +0000 > From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 16 > To: Wikimedia Kenya <wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <BLU116-W16746E36DF328E1BE7D98CA4C0(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Cliff, > Here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Kenya/bylaws > You might want to change your digest settings to off -- which is why you > have a problem keeping up to speed. > Abbas. > > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:04:06 +0300 > From: caargwings(a)gmail.com > To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 16 > > Hey Abbas, > Where can I read the bylaws of wikimedia kenya? I haven't had a look at > them. > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:43 PM, < > wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > > Send WikimediaKE mailing list submissions to > > wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > wikimediake-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of WikimediaKE digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments (Abbas Mahmood) > > 2. Re: Khan Academy (deonte munene) > > 3. Re: Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments (wanjaustev(a)gmail.com) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:07:09 +0000 > > From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments > > To: Wikimedia Kenya <wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > > Message-ID: <BLU116-W186519C1EB32B996BDAAFCCA4D0(a)phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > Erm, I think we forgot no.6: > > 6. If someone just doesn't pay fees, when will he/she no longer be a > member? Usually bylaws have a clause saying something along the lines "if > you didn't pay your dues for more than a year, and two reminders have been > sent the board may remove membership from you". > > > My opinion is that if you haven't paid the membership fees, you aren't > considered as a member so we wouldn't have to "remove membership" from you > in the first place. This, of course, doesn't mean that such a person is not > allowed to attend meetings, etc but what he can not do is vote. I also > suggest that members should also be given priority over non-members when it > comes to participating in projects. (e.g., it would be unfair to take a > non-member to Mombasa for the Wikipedia for Schools project when there was a > member who wanted to go.) > > > > > Abbas. > > > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:26:07 +0300 > > > From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com > > > To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments > > > > > > Abbas, > > > I agree with that.Lets adopt it. > > > Any more queries? > > > > > > On 7/16/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here's what Stephen and I suggested: > > > > A minimum of one third of the members can call for a Special Resolution > > > > Meeting, with notice given to all members at least 7 days in advance. > > > > However, a majority of two thirds of the members' votes shall be > required to > > > > remove a director, or the whole Board. > > > > Abbas. > > > >> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:20:55 +0300 > > > >> From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com > > > >> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments > > > >> > > > >> Abbas, > > > >> >> I suggest we say 10% of the members can call for a "Special > Meeting" > > > >> >> to express a vote of no confidence in the board.However such a vote > > > >> >> should only be considered valid if atleast 30% of the members > partake > > > >> >> in it and that the voting out of the board/resolution should be > > > >> >> supported by 50% +1 of the voting members(i.e the 30% present).... > > > >> > > > > >> > May I try to interpret what you are saying in actual figures? > > > >> > 10% of ~20 members = 2 members.30% of ~20 members = 6 members51% of > the > > > >> > 6 > > > >> > members = 4 members > > > >> > So therefore in simpler terms, what you are saying is that at least > 2 > > > >> > members can call for a Special Resolution and the vote is only > > > >> > considered > > > >> > valid if at least 6 members partake in the voting and the voting out > of > > > >> > the > > > >> > board should be supported by at least 4 members? > > > >> > If this is what you are implying, I disagree with it. Once again, I > > > >> > borrow > > > >> > precedence from Wikimedia Deutschland's case (mentioned earlier > > > >> > upthread) > > > >> > where they require a majority to remove the Board. 6 out of 20 > members > > > >> > is > > > >> > not a majority. > > > >> > > > >> Your interpretation is correct.And yes that's my thought and the % > > > >> were arbitrary.We could revise them upwards.Plus am considering the > > > >> fact that definitely not all members will be present nor would partake > > > >> in the elections.Maybe we revise the % upwards?? > > > >> Regards, > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Limoke Oscar, > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> WikimediaKE mailing list > > > >> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Limoke Oscar, > > > mayenge.blogspot.com > > > Freelancer, > > > GeoInformatics and GIScience Student > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > WikimediaKE mailing list > > > WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > > >

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 16
by cliff argwings 20 Jul '11

20 Jul '11

Hey Abbas, Where can I read the bylaws of wikimedia kenya? I haven't had a look at them. On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:43 PM, <wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org>wrote: > Send WikimediaKE mailing list submissions to > wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimediake-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WikimediaKE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments (Abbas Mahmood) > 2. Re: Khan Academy (deonte munene) > 3. Re: Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments (wanjaustev(a)gmail.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:07:09 +0000 > From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments > To: Wikimedia Kenya <wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <BLU116-W186519C1EB32B996BDAAFCCA4D0(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Erm, I think we forgot no.6: > 6. If someone just doesn't pay fees, when will he/she no longer be a > member? Usually bylaws have a clause saying something along the lines "if > you didn't pay your dues for more than a year, and two reminders have been > sent the board may remove membership from you". > My opinion is that if you haven't paid the membership fees, you aren't > considered as a member so we wouldn't have to "remove membership" from you > in the first place. This, of course, doesn't mean that such a person is not > allowed to attend meetings, etc but what he can not do is vote. I also > suggest that members should also be given priority over non-members when it > comes to participating in projects. (e.g., it would be unfair to take a > non-member to Mombasa for the Wikipedia for Schools project when there was a > member who wanted to go.) > > Abbas. > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:26:07 +0300 > > From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com > > To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments > > > > Abbas, > > I agree with that.Lets adopt it. > > Any more queries? > > > > On 7/16/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Here's what Stephen and I suggested: > > > A minimum of one third of the members can call for a Special Resolution > > > Meeting, with notice given to all members at least 7 days in advance. > > > However, a majority of two thirds of the members' votes shall be > required to > > > remove a director, or the whole Board. > > > Abbas. > > >> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:20:55 +0300 > > >> From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com > > >> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments > > >> > > >> Abbas, > > >> >> I suggest we say 10% of the members can call for a "Special > Meeting" > > >> >> to express a vote of no confidence in the board.However such a vote > > >> >> should only be considered valid if atleast 30% of the members > partake > > >> >> in it and that the voting out of the board/resolution should be > > >> >> supported by 50% +1 of the voting members(i.e the 30% present).... > > >> > > > >> > May I try to interpret what you are saying in actual figures? > > >> > 10% of ~20 members = 2 members.30% of ~20 members = 6 members51% of > the > > >> > 6 > > >> > members = 4 members > > >> > So therefore in simpler terms, what you are saying is that at least > 2 > > >> > members can call for a Special Resolution and the vote is only > > >> > considered > > >> > valid if at least 6 members partake in the voting and the voting out > of > > >> > the > > >> > board should be supported by at least 4 members? > > >> > If this is what you are implying, I disagree with it. Once again, I > > >> > borrow > > >> > precedence from Wikimedia Deutschland's case (mentioned earlier > > >> > upthread) > > >> > where they require a majority to remove the Board. 6 out of 20 > members > > >> > is > > >> > not a majority. > > >> > > >> Your interpretation is correct.And yes that's my thought and the % > > >> were arbitrary.We could revise them upwards.Plus am considering the > > >> fact that definitely not all members will be present nor would partake > > >> in the elections.Maybe we revise the % upwards?? > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Limoke Oscar, > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> WikimediaKE mailing list > > >> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > > > > > > > > > -- > > Limoke Oscar, > > mayenge.blogspot.com > > Freelancer, > > GeoInformatics and GIScience Student > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WikimediaKE mailing list > > WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > >

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments
by wanjaustev＠gmail.com 19 Jul '11

19 Jul '11

True. Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >Erm, I think we forgot no.6: >6. If someone just doesn't pay fees, when will he/she no longer be a member? Usually bylaws have a clause saying something along the lines "if you didn't pay your dues for more than a year, and two reminders have been sent the board may remove membership from you". >My opinion is that if you haven't paid the membership fees, you aren't considered as a member so we wouldn't have to "remove membership" from you in the first place. This, of course, doesn't mean that such a person is not allowed to attend meetings, etc but what he can not do is vote. I also suggest that members should also be given priority over non-members when it comes to participating in projects. (e.g., it would be unfair to take a non-member to Mombasa for the Wikipedia for Schools project when there was a member who wanted to go.) > >Abbas. > >> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:26:07 +0300 >> From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com >> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments >> >> Abbas, >> I agree with that.Lets adopt it. >> Any more queries? >> >> On 7/16/11, Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Here's what Stephen and I suggested: >> > A minimum of one third of the members can call for a Special Resolution >> > Meeting, with notice given to all members at least 7 days in advance. >> > However, a majority of two thirds of the members' votes shall be required to >> > remove a director, or the whole Board. >> > Abbas. >> >> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:20:55 +0300 >> >> From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com >> >> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments >> >> >> >> Abbas, >> >> >> I suggest we say 10% of the members can call for a "Special Meeting" >> >> >> to express a vote of no confidence in the board.However such a vote >> >> >> should only be considered valid if atleast 30% of the members partake >> >> >> in it and that the voting out of the board/resolution should be >> >> >> supported by 50% +1 of the voting members(i.e the 30% present).... >> >> > >> >> > May I try to interpret what you are saying in actual figures? >> >> > 10% of ~20 members = 2 members.30% of ~20 members = 6 members51% of the >> >> > 6 >> >> > members = 4 members >> >> > So therefore in simpler terms, what you are saying is that at least 2 >> >> > members can call for a Special Resolution and the vote is only >> >> > considered >> >> > valid if at least 6 members partake in the voting and the voting out of >> >> > the >> >> > board should be supported by at least 4 members? >> >> > If this is what you are implying, I disagree with it. Once again, I >> >> > borrow >> >> > precedence from Wikimedia Deutschland's case (mentioned earlier >> >> > upthread) >> >> > where they require a majority to remove the Board. 6 out of 20 members >> >> > is >> >> > not a majority. >> >> >> >> Your interpretation is correct.And yes that's my thought and the % >> >> were arbitrary.We could revise them upwards.Plus am considering the >> >> fact that definitely not all members will be present nor would partake >> >> in the elections.Maybe we revise the % upwards?? >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Limoke Oscar, >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> >> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake >> > >> >> >> -- >> Limoke Oscar, >> mayenge.blogspot.com >> Freelancer, >> GeoInformatics and GIScience Student >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaKE mailing list >> WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > >_______________________________________________ >WikimediaKE mailing list >WikimediaKE(a)lists.wikimedia.org >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake

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[Wikimedia Kenya] Khan Academy
by Abbas Mahmood 19 Jul '11

19 Jul '11

Greetings, Has anyone of you guys heard of Khan Academy(www.khanacademy.org)? Khan Academy is a multiple-award winning non-profit organization/website that has free collections of educational videos ranging from Math, Calculus, Algebra, Chemistry, Physics, Statistics and man more. I was thinking of carrying out an offline project with Khan where we'd download and distribute these videos to educational institutions probably during September. If you guys are interested, I'll arrange a meetup where we could discuss the way forward. Cheers,Abbas.

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[Wikimedia Kenya] Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments
by Abbas Mahmood 19 Jul '11

19 Jul '11

Greetings: Please see the bylaws here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Kenya/bylaws and CHapCom's questions: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Kenya/bylaws. Kindly respond. Abbas.

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Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikimediaKE Digest, Vol 12, Issue 13
by cliff argwings 19 Jul '11

19 Jul '11

Hey Abbas, The guys who you listed their are the ones eligible to register for the pre - conference sessions or is it open? On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:26 PM, <wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org>wrote: > Send WikimediaKE mailing list submissions to > wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediake > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimediake-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimediake-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WikimediaKE digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Wikimania (Abbas Mahmood) > 2. Re: Visiting Kenya after Wikimania 2011 (Manuel Schneider) > 3. Re: Visiting Kenya after Wikimania 2011 (Alex Wafula) > 4. Re: Visiting Kenya after Wikimania 2011 (stephen wanjau) > 5. Re: Visiting Kenya after Wikimania 2011 (Limoke Oscar) > 6. Re: Bylaws: ChapCom's Comments (Limoke Oscar) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:21:31 +0000 > From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: [Wikimedia Kenya] Wikimania > To: Wikimedia Kenya <wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Message-ID: <BLU116-W101A352ED1B14183E3AEE5CA4D0(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > [to Wikimania attendees] > Hi, > I hope you are aware of the pre-conference prior to the actual Wikimania. > The pre-conference has some sessions that are of relevance to us, and it'd > be great if some of you registered for these sessions: > 1. Global South Meeting: > http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_South_Meeting2. Open ZIM > Meeting: > http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/OpenZIM_Developers_Meeting3. > Chapters Meeting: http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Chapters_Meeting > > //abbas. >

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