Hi guys,
So just to update you on venue. Here's the thing with ihub, it's available before Saturday but I'm not sure if everyone will be able to make it. The other option's to have it next Saturday which is on 7th.
As for this Saturday, I'm looking into having the venue at NIT - that's in Westlands. I'll get back to you as soon as possible on this.
I hope connectivity speeds won't be too slow ie from Safcom / orange...
Alex.
On Sun Apr 24th, 2011 10:55 PM PDT Abbas Mahmood wrote:
>I'm not a fan of Safaricom's sh2 per minute billing system. IMHO, I find Orange way cheaper and faster than Safaricom: Orange charges sh. 110 for 100MB. But anyway, I guess we don't have that many users in Orange...
>
>> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 08:44:33 +0300
>> From: kips8505izo(a)gmail.com
>> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] WikiSaturday Plan B
>>
>> The best option is we use connectify software and the safaricom new
>> billing rate of unlimited browsing/download the rates are 2sh a minute
>> and they don't restrict the data bundles as long as you are subscribed
>> so guys will still facebook, tweet, and edit wikipedia. In my
>> calculation 600SH will last us 5 hours. If you agree to this then it
>> will now be the issue of venue. Alex can sort that out I am sure
>>
>> On 25/04/2011, stephen wanjau <wanjaustev(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > To probably add onto Oscar's suggestion,the ideos can support upto 9 users
>> > at a time but this should not be a worry,since there is a software called
>> > connectify which is freeware.The software is purported to turn any laptop
>> > running on windows 7 into a hotspot.But the 'hotspot' needs to be connected
>> > to the internet and then from there other users can log in with a password
>> > given by the admin of the hotspot.
>> >
>> > The only advantage is,It is not limited to number of users.
>> > Finding another venue without wifi connection would be a cinch if we had our
>> > own internet.
>> > Thank you and have a good day.
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> > stephen w. wanjau
>> > Phone: +254 771 557 857
>> > twitter:haha_wanjau
>> > B.Sc statistics and computer science.
>> > JKUAT
>> >
>> > On Apr 25, 2011 8:14 AM, "Limoke Oscar" <oslimoke(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hey guys,
>> >> Looks like ihub is going to unrelibke for our monthly editing.I
>> >> suggest we think of alternative ways.To start it of, The IDEOS phone
>> >> can broadcast wifi quite well.since a few of us have it,we could buy
>> >> some data bundles and find a venue and carry on with our
>> >> editing.ofcourse we will need to set some norms like disable auto
>> >> updates,no facebook,twitter etc.what do you think?
>> >>
>> >> Yours,
>> >>
>> >> --
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Hey guys,
Looks like ihub is going to unrelibke for our monthly editing.I
suggest we think of alternative ways.To start it of, The IDEOS phone
can broadcast wifi quite well.since a few of us have it,we could buy
some data bundles and find a venue and carry on with our
editing.ofcourse we will need to set some norms like disable auto
updates,no facebook,twitter etc.what do you think?
Yours,
--
Limoke Oscar,
mayenge.blogspot.com
Freelancer,
GeoInformatics and GIScience Student
Hey guys,
Looks like ihub is going to be unrelible for our monthly editing.I
suggest we think of alternative ways.To start it of, The IDEOS phone
can broadcast wifi quite well.since a few of us have it,we could buy
some data bundles and find a venue and carry on with our
editing.ofcourse we will need to set some norms like disable auto
updates,no facebook,twitter etc.what do you think?
Yours,
--
Limoke Oscar,
mayenge.blogspot.com
Freelancer,
GeoInformatics and GIScience Student
Bad news guys. Ihub won't be available for Wiki Saturday. I'm looking for other
possible venues (with wifi ofcourse) and I'll let you know what I find before
the end of the day.
alex.
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Tosh <tosh(a)ihub.co.ke>
To: Alex Wafula <xelawafs(a)yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, April 23, 2011 2:25:09 PM
Subject: Re: Wiki Saturday
Dude, also taken for the full day! April was a really full day!
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Alex Wafula <xelawafs(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
The request was for next sato ie 30th, not today...
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: Tosh <tosh(a)ihub.co.ke>
>To: Alex Wafula <xelawafs(a)yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sat, April 23, 2011 1:57:58 PM
>Subject: Re: Wiki Saturday
>
>
>Hey Alex,
>
>
>Late requests again man. The iHub is busy today the whole day. Even at night so
>will be impossible today.
>
>
>Cheers
>
>
>On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Alex Wafula <xelawafs(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Hey Tosh,
>>
>>The local Wikimedia group will be having a Wiki Saturday next Sato ie on the
>>30th which is basically Wikimedians gathering together to write and edit
>>Wikipedia articles as well as orient those newbies on how articles are edited.
>>
>>We were hoping we could use iHub as the venue for this...?
>>
>>cheers,
>>Alex.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>
>Regards, Tosh
>Innovation, Community, Entrepreneurship, Business Mentoring, Research
>www.ihub.co.ke | +254 733 267 044 | Skype: kingtosh
>Twitter: @iHubNairobi | Twitter: @iTosh
>
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Regards, Tosh
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cross-posting (as I've seen lots of university students on these mailing
lists:))
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Wikimedia Education] Calling all students: student club IRC
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:33:55 -0700
From: Jessie Wild <jwild(a)wikimedia.org>
Reply-To: education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
To: education(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Hello!
If you are a student and want to become more involved with Wikimedia, be
a leader and organizer on your university campus, and interact with a
global network of like-minded students, starting a STUDENT CLUB could be
a great opportunity for you!
As many of you know, Wikipedia focused university outreach is begin to
take more and more active forms.[1] I was hoping that you would all be
the first to begin the conversations about how students clubs can
effectively become part of the larger Wikimedia movement.[2]
I would love to schedule a time on IRC for us to get together and
brainstorm ways to move forward with the student movement of
Wikip/media. Specific agenda items, time, and channel can be found on
the talk page:
http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedia_student_clubs.
Please spread the word! All are welcome – specifically current
university& college students :)
Jessie
[1] http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_University_Program
[2] http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_student_clubs
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Yah, Wikisaturday is for 30th. I think Sam might have mixed up the dates.
Alex.
On Thu Apr 21st, 2011 9:06 AM PDT Oliver Stegen wrote:
>I understood WikiSaturday to be on April 30, not April 23 . ?!?
>
>Alex, for when have you booked iHub?
>
>In any case, I may have to join you from home as family usually keeps me
>occupied on Saturdays.
>
>Oliver (aka BT)
>
>
>
> _____
>
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>[mailto:wikimediake-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of SAMSON MAOSA
>Sent: 21 April 2011 17:01
>To: The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.
>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Survey
>
>
>
>Greetings all, hoping everyone is contented now. Speaking of WikiSaturday,
>since I am far from Nairobi I will start mine tomorrow. Whether it is
>Tomorrow I will do Swahili Wikipedia and on Saturday, if I get internet,
>will do English Wikipedia. Have a good friday all.
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>____________________________________________________________________________
>______
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>
You all have a fantastic EASTER holiday:-)!
On Thu Apr 21st, 2011 5:15 AM PDT Chris Riwa wrote:
>Hi,
>in any our daily endeavors, it is quite normal to face criticism. However,
>the criticism is quite healthy since it helps us discover our weaknesses. My
>point - all this is quite normal and healthy and what really matters at this
>point is how we are going to solve the situation at hand. So, Abbas man-up
>and get this ball rolling your the one in charge. To the rest of us, the
>survey is the best way at the moment to try and get to know your opinions
>about the sensitive issues quickly and effectively. So lets get to business
>and fill the questionnaire before our next meet-up so that we can have the
>most contagious issues first on our agenda.
>Regarding the 'name thing',it really doesn't matter whether you put it or
>not. For those who don't feel like putting it you can as well write
>"Anonymous." However, it is important for you guys to be as sincere as
>possible when giving your opinions and answers as this is the current tool
>put in place to collect all your opinions before we can all decide on the
>best way forward. However, let us all maintain respect and integrity when
>expressing ourselves. Thank you all and lets move forward for we all belong
>to Wikimedia Kenya.
>
>PS Maosa: When conducting a survey, the researcher can't avoid knowing a
>little bit more regarding their respondents. however, it is their
>responsibility to ensure such information is not leaked out to the general
>public or any other party after the survey is done. So at this case, the one
>in charge (Researcher) can know the names but has to keep it a secret to
>him/herself. Looking forward to get some really response from this survey.
Hey guys,
You guys are really making it difficult for us (new guys) to understand
everything. What's the argument all about coz I really
don't what you guys are up to.... Someone please clear the AIR!
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> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 04:19:00 -0700 (PDT)
> From: lilian nyarera <lireshi(a)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Survey
> To: "The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter."
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> Hi,
> I am failing to understand the arguments in this mails. Simply dont write
> your
> name if you really dont have to. Abbas,Just make it clear that no names
> will be
> displayed(since its the cause for all these arguments)?and that everyone is
> writing their thots and therefore no one should be judgemental whatsoever
> after
> all its a survey and everyone is entitled to their opinion!?
> Oscar avoid being too harsh.Kuwa mpole.
>
>
> ?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Abbas Mahmood <abbasjnr(a)hotmail.com>
> To: The discussion list for the upcoming Wikimedia Kenya chapter.
> <wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 1:32:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Survey
>
> I feel demoralized.??I started this survey so that we can see where we are
> doing
> well and maximise on that and know where we are poor and learn from our
> mistakes. However, I did not intend to point fingers of accusation at
> people who
> are performing below average. That is why I said I will not disclose names.
> That
> is why, in the survey, I just put a general slot for ''quality of
> presentations'' rather than ''Grace's presentation'' or ''Ting's
> presentation''.
> I fail to understand how, for instance, rating quality of presentations as
> 1
> will mean that David made a poor presentation. It merely means that next
> time,
> we will all collaborate beforehand and ensure that the presentations to be
> made
> are all of the desired quality.
>
> If you think that this is pointing fingers of accusation behind someone's
> back,
> then I'm sorry: I was merely assuming good faith.
>
> This survey is done online since at an AGM, not all people would attend,
> and
> thereby it wouldn't guarantee full participation.
>
> Critics will always be there. Now it's up to you to live in you own bubble
> and
> pretend you don't hear them or listen to them, and react appropriately.
>
>
> I think this causing more contoversy than expected, and maybe I was
> mistaken to
> create this survey in the first place.
>
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 12:50:49 +0300
> From: oslimoke(a)gmail.com
> To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Survey
>
> Hi Everyone,
> From what I have been reading,I guess I dont understand what is going
> on.True we
> have?received?some "negative" critiscm in the past few days.And from the
> continued arguments in this thread,I am inclined to think maybe our critics
> are
> right?!
>
> First,I dont understand the need of the Survey?I mean to what end are we
> doing
> the survey???
> I personally would suggest we have some sort of ?"AGM" where we can look
> back at
> our success,mistakes and staff on a more "humane" grounds with the aim of
> correcting and building on our success and mistakes not the "virtual" way.
>
> Plus some questions are very subjective and touch on individuals directly
> and?personally?I would rather not critic people behind there back
> especially in
> print.......
>
> Happy Easter,
> Limoke Oscar,
> mayenge.blogspot.com
> Freelancer,
> GeoInformatics and GIScience Student
>
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I'd say you go for anonymus if you don't want your name displayed else, feel free to have your name public.
As for one person filling the survey more than once, I really don't see the problem with this. If it was registration for an event with limited spaces that ould be a different story.
Alex.
On Thu Apr 21st, 2011 1:48 AM PDT Abbas Mahmood wrote:
>
>>Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 08:55:42 +0300
>>From: coolsam726(a)gmail.com
>>To: wikimediake(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Kenya] Survey
>
>
>>@Abbas,>You were on the right direction, and you gave it the best decision. In future we have to look for a better solution against multiple participation. You will agree with me that the name field doesn't solve >the problem at all. I can poise as Grace and submit my survey under her name....
>
>
>No, I will not agree with you. Simply because I could follow it up with Grace and confirm whether she participated in the survey. Or better yet, Grace might have already participated in the survey and a second entry under her name would only arouse suspicion and i would follow it up with Grace to confirm which is her actual entry.
>I'm not going to argue much about it -- just do what you want: if you want to fill in "Anonymous", then so be it. >The fact that Wikimedia Kenya is Democratic alone will not give people the confidence to speak pure truth. In that case I am sorry to say that there are those who will give responses that are >"edited" in order to ensure that they do not condemn me or Abbas or Oscar or Chris or Steve or Lilian or anybody else. Therefore the survey will just be a painted picture.
>Ha! I'm actually surprised at your democracy stance. Could you pause for a moment and flashback when you were overseeing the voting process of who's going to the Chapters Meeting and you were the very same person who said that you believe that we are all mature people and we are democratically mature? Just in case you forgot, these are the very exact words you said, verbatim, in your email dated Wed 2/02/11 8:09 AM:
>Just to clarify, I believe that we are a free and mature people. This is why I trusted all of us to display the polls.As much as some people would develop a "So you didn't vote for me" attitude, I believe that won't be the case in Wikimedia. Everyone had a criteria to vote the way he did and I believe everyone is satisfied with the results. Show your mature democracy by developing no grudge to anybody.As I would always say, this was not a rivalry poll, but rather one that will strengthen our bond as well as show the external world, including the rest of the Wikimedia foundation how democratically mature we are and how we can handle situations as mature people.can you prove that?
>
>
>
>
Hi all,
I believe that feedback/complaints/compliments/criticisms are good for the betterment of an organization. With that in mind, I have created a survey that I would like you all to participate:https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dG…. I know it's quite long, but so much has happened so far and I would like to know what people think about what we've been doing.Please be honest when answering the questions. For privacy reasons, I will not mention any names when displaying the results.
Looking forward to getting your feedback!
Yours,
Abbas.